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Re: 4 Pi Design Questions [message #73133 is a reply to message #73132]

Mon, 25 June 2012 18:12

Wayne Parham
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I think Nick's build is pretty much the same as a standard four π loudspeaker above 100Hz. I was initially concerned that his box might have introduced anomalies in the lower midrange. But his measurements tell me that his box is ripple-free in the lower midrange, which is a very important thing to consider when building a two-way loudspeaker that is physically large.

Since Nick kept the woofer/tweeter spacing relationship the same and used the same crossover, I was pretty sure it would act right in the crossover region. So from 500Hz upward, I would have expected the same response.

We all would expect bass to change, but the thing I often point out is that a box this size also needs attention paid to the midrange, since standing waves can line up inside. That's why modeling and measurements are really important in a large two-way loudspeaker like this. So many DIYers use a box modeling program to determine bass response, but fail to look at the midrange. That's an extremely important thing to consider in a large two-way speaker, because of the matter of standing waves.

Nick's speaker looks like it probably sounds pretty darn good. There is no midrange ripple, and that's what we wanted to see.

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		Re: 4 Pi Design Questions By: Nichol1997 on Mon, 18 January 2010 06:36
		Re: 4 Pi Design Questions By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 18 January 2010 08:46
		Re: 4 Pi Design Questions By: Nichol1997 on Wed, 20 January 2010 20:59
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		Re: 4 Pi Design Questions By: Nichol1997 on Thu, 01 April 2010 21:15
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		Re: 4 Pi Design Questions By: Nichol1997 on Fri, 02 April 2010 20:58
		Re: 4 Pi Design Questions By: Wayne Parham on Sat, 03 April 2010 09:32
		Re: 4 Pi Design Questions By: Nichol1997 on Wed, 07 April 2010 21:17
		Re: 4 Pi Design Questions By: Wayne Parham on Wed, 07 April 2010 21:55
		Re: 4 Pi Design Questions By: Nichol1997 on Sun, 20 June 2010 08:18
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		Re: 4 Pi Design Questions By: Nichol1997 on Thu, 17 May 2012 19:38
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		Re: 4 Pi Design Questions By: Nichol1997 on Fri, 01 June 2012 19:30
		Re: 4 Pi Design Questions By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 01 June 2012 21:35
		Re: 4 Pi Design Questions By: mantha3 on Sat, 02 June 2012 08:56
		Re: 4 Pi Design Questions By: Wayne Parham on Sat, 02 June 2012 10:30
		Re: 4 Pi Design Questions By: Nichol1997 on Mon, 18 June 2012 19:50
		Re: 4 Pi Design Questions By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 18 June 2012 21:12
		Re: 4 Pi Design Questions By: mantha3 on Tue, 19 June 2012 07:52
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