My friend who tried to load it from the ISP when he moved here
developed the problem after having no difficulty with it.

There's some filtering or blacklisting going on, it's the
only answer.

I get mail from PE but the forum or anything connected
with the site will not load.

I think it's outrageous but I haven't pursued it a great deal.

A different problem of note happened to me at a public terminal
at the local library. My how-to site for media called
afterdawn.com was part of the filtering system there. I learned
later from the library director that they use an unmonitored
program filter of porn sites that they buy from somebody. afterdawn.com was apparently on that program. I challenged the
denial of service at the library and they acknowledged that it should not have been blocked and were able to re-edit the filter.

The question is: how did afterdawn.com get on some filter list
to begin with?

And the stalking horse will be child pornography.

You have all the media doing shows on child porn
and Gen Hayden going in the back door during the
hubbub.

MB, you seem to like the books I recommend. The best book
I've read of late (outside of Lessig) is by Judith Levine.

The title is "Harmful To Minors." It's widely carried in
every library in Wisconsin-- a bit surprising considering
the subject matter. There's probably a copy near you.

I have a little ping program that I don't know how to
use that might show the path to PE. It came with
an old computer buy-- a scratch program so I don't exactly
know what it totally does.