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Re: New vocalist: Pamela Luss/ Kitty Margolis [message #6580 is a reply to message #6579] Sun, 19 March 2006 21:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dunno about electro-what-you-said.


What I worry about in this format is that all this info
will get buried. I believe we should lobby Wayne to make this
forum first in first out or whatever it means to display
newest posts at the top of the list or the thread title with the
most recent entries.


I wanted to add Kitty Margolis to my list of female
vocalists. A very similar delivery reminiscent Nancy Wilson.
Kitty can keep time and she doesn't run out of breath that
I can hear.

The tune I'm concentrating on is "Sleeping Bee". This to me
is really infectious and I never knew much about it before.
As i recall from the over-the-air notes by Parlocha, lyrics
were written by Truman Capote. A must find for you and a
special delivery to a youngster I know.


There are very few tunes-- especially jazz I betcha that a kid can
wrap his or her head around. Waters of March was one I thought of
since it has no narrative per se, narrative being the moon and
June elements of most pop music. Another one is "Voom" by
Blossom Dearie. "Voom" is a French tune. I don't think it even
matters what language you hear it in. I heard it in French
first as the outro of film called _Toto the Hero_ (I think.)



Re: New vocalist: Pamela Luss / The Monkey [message #6581 is a reply to message #6579] Sun, 19 March 2006 23:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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These subject lines are starting to look kind of goofy but
I'm going to reply here on the care and feeding of the
Signifying Monkey which was just a phrase that popped into
my head in the earlier post but has some relevance.


You see, the Signifying Monkey started out as a 'toast'.
Toasting was the earliest predecessor of rap according to
things I've read from places like Rounder Records (but I have
no original research.) Round likely still has this in
their catalog. Rounder Records is in Cambridge Mass.


You see, back in those days --early 80's -- when the
records were coming our way, Rounder Records compiled a
album full of toasts under the title "Ups On The Farm" I think.
The toasts were gathered from prison inmates in much the
same way that whatshisface John Simon (?) did in Apallachia to
record the original musics of the hill peoples.


Well anyway, the Signifying Monkey was one of the original
toasts-- folklore. That's why there's The Monkey, The Elephant,
The Buzzard, etc.


Unfortunately these oral traditions based on The Dozens
contain many expletives. The Monkey has been fed over the
years by entertainers as diverse as Oscar Brown Jr, Rudy Ray
Moore, Johnny Otis and Nat "King' Cole.


Right here I'll make another pitch for the value of point
to point file sharing because without it I'd have no access
to the couple of Signifying Monkey routines that Rudy Ray
(The Human Dynamo) Moore does-- one as a duet with Big Daddy Kane!


--> Important note: Big Daddy will be covered under
it's own well-deserved heading. Not Big Daddy
Kane, Big Daddy (plain).


These materials would be lost or extremely isolated if
some individuals had not posted them from their record
collections.


The Monkey even has a book written about it by a big time
black literature historian which I can prob'ly find yet
because it is only a couple years old.


I suppose the first Monkey you hear is always the
favorite. First one I heard was from a quintet called
"Snatch and the Poontangs" which was later identified for
me as Johnny Otis working under a pseudonym.


The most accessible version of the Monkey toasts was
written by Oscar Brown Jr. who recently passed away:

"Said the Signifying Monkey to the lion one day,
There's a big bad elephant coming down your way.
He talked about your mother and your sister too,
And he didn't show too much respect for you.


Lastly, the the Signifying Monkey and Nat King Cole:
the song "Straighten Up And Fly Right" is another
take on this 'monkey business.'


This is all oral history: just things I remember.

I am no book author myself but I'd be glad if these musings
didn't go down the black hole of web authorship along with other
stuff I have written. Problem with net authorship is that the
search tools are so poor. But a look at the wiki for
Signifying Monkey if there is such a thing would be worthwhile.
Perhaps the wiki has these things already.


More when manualblock asks me something....




Re: New vocalist: Pamela Luss / The Monkey [message #6582 is a reply to message #6581] Mon, 20 March 2006 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is a whole genre' of female recordings that deal with sex. Believe me the lyrics on those records would shock the supposedly jaded public today. And they were recorded in the twenties and thirties.
What do people think a"One-Eyed cat; peepin in a seafood store" might mean?
Thats very tame compared to whats on record.
Redd Foxx recorded a lot of the jokes along with Moms Mabley but many of the real hard-core artists I don't know the names.
Signifying Monkey had to do with release from prison right?
Bessie Smith did some raunch records also.
BTW; The Last Poets; thanks Thats the stuff I like. I listened to a couple poems and I've ordered the CD.

Re: New vocalist: Pamela Luss/ Kitty Margolis [message #6583 is a reply to message #6580] Mon, 20 March 2006 08:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I posted once about Nancy Wilson and her new album. Got no replies even though it is a spectacular gemm of a record. I like Kitty but I don't have a lot of her stuff. The Decware Forum has a lot more guys who actually like music and post about it. Too bad but if you want to learn about new music and; well music in general it doesn't look like it's going to happen here. But we can keep trying for what it's worth.
I have my system in order to hear music; I don't know why others have theirs.

Re: New vocalist: Pamela Luss/ Kitty Margolis [message #6586 is a reply to message #6583] Mon, 20 March 2006 13:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The vocalists on the From The Landing show from NPR
are also excellent though I don't own much of the work.

Rebecca Kilgore is their featured vocalist who always seems
fresh and able to keep time-- you know, not behind the beat or
in front of it. Streams of the show are available from the
Riverwalk site.


I tend to be a minimalist as far as hardware is concerned.
Over on the DIY forum one of the regulars was saying that
his kids wanted to build a BIB (Bigger Is Better design from Terry
Cain). The kids are 8 and 5. The one won a cheap cd player and
they want to fire it up with a Sonic Impact amp and run it
to some BIBs. They want to paint flames on the BIB's.

Re: New vocalist: Pamela Luss/ Kitty Margolis [message #6588 is a reply to message #6586] Mon, 20 March 2006 14:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Meanwhile my boy and his freinds could care less as long as they can hear it on the Ipod.
BIB; why not?
How minimal are you?

Re: New vocalist: Pamela Luss/ Kitty Margolis [message #6589 is a reply to message #6588] Mon, 20 March 2006 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have the FE127e from Fostex in an MLTL design built from 69 cent
shelving from a depot place called Menards. Amplification is from a Yamaha RP U100 that I got on closeout for $89. I've moved the
FE127es to various builds over th years. I'm hoping the new
sims that they're working on for BIB will allow for my next
build cycle with the same driver. For that I got a few
72x12x3/4 edge-glued pre cut shelves for $8 each.

The pair of 3" Tangband W871 I never found a suitable enclosure
for-- nothing sounds right. But there is a design out there
for bipole if I wanted to recut those boxes and add the rear
facing drivers and a tweet that shoots out the top.

Re: New vocalist: Pamela Luss/ Kitty Margolis [message #6590 is a reply to message #6589] Mon, 20 March 2006 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is the Tangband the driver they modified in the AudioeXpress article?

Re: New vocalist: Pamela Luss/ Kitty Margolis [message #6591 is a reply to message #6590] Mon, 20 March 2006 17:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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From what I recall without looking it up, yes. But I'm not
about to go putting dimples into _any_ aluminum cones.


Apparently J. Krutke got good results out of the driver
with use of a BSC which he describes at zaphaudio.com I built
his highboy enclosures for use with the computer here: desktop
box at 16 in high for ear level. But I never cared for the
sound esp. sealed. I ran them bare with no circuit correction
because I am electronically challenged.




Re: New vocalist: Pamela Luss/ Kitty Margolis [message #6594 is a reply to message #6591] Mon, 20 March 2006 19:33 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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BSC never seemed to help much in my experience anyway.
Whats your front-end?

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