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New vocalist: Pamela Luss [message #6540] Wed, 15 March 2006 00:16 Go to next message
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Over the weekend I heard this vocalist with an album
released just this last February. The song sung was
"Waters of March" which is a personal favorite. The
arrangement is the best I've heard in a long time for a tune
usually done very low key.


There's some listening samples at the link below
but they are pretty short.

Along with Dianne Hubka and few others there seems to
be several new female vocalists with substantial talent
and style.



Re: New vocalist: Pamela Luss [message #6549 is a reply to message #6540] Thu, 16 March 2006 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I really like her, thanks for pointing her out!


Re: New vocalist: Pamela Luss [message #6551 is a reply to message #6549] Thu, 16 March 2006 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't know anything about her besides hearing The Waters Of March
on the radio. The Bob Parlocha show is good for new talent and
historical stuff. But I can't say that I'd call her a jazz singer.
Very nice voice and arrangements though.

Re: New vocalist: Pamela Luss [message #6552 is a reply to message #6551] Thu, 16 March 2006 16:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lon; this is a difficult thing to review because of the nature of the music. When ever they want these newer artists;mostly female, to break into the adult-pop market they give them an album of standards to do. The problem with that as I see it is this. Those songs have been sung by some of the best female singers ever. Trying to compare an average voice with Sarah Vaughn or Ella Fitzgerald; Rosemary Clooney or Anita O'Day; the women who made songs like this famous is really impossible.
Here's why I personally have an issue with this whole process. The good songstresses have natural voices that they just sing without affect or strain. Without attempting to modify their vocal range or use athletic means to push the vocals. This girl closes her throat in order to reach notes she is not equiped to find in a smooth and natural manner. So it comes across as forced and tight. Thats what a lot of the younger chantueses seem to try to do. They control their voices in such a way as to restrict the flow of air and reach different keys and notes; something an Ella or Sarah never had to do.
Consequently the music is limited and lacking in real emotion.
This is just my opinion; YMMV.
Here's a thought I always remmember when thinking of singing; at the end Billie Holiday had no voice left; yet she could still whisper a song better than most pro's could sing it. Thats what we don't find in the new crop of singers; the intuition and skill and experience to push a song with real feeling.

Re: New vocalist: Pamela Luss [message #6555 is a reply to message #6552] Thu, 16 March 2006 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd have to say in response that when the newer vocalists try
to ape the classic performers in scat singing etc, it usually
come out pretty lame.


And I think it is due to inexperience as you do. But I also
think that the market for vocalists is greatly different that
in the hey day of the big bands.

Many of the tunes on this album I avoid like the plague
such as "My Funny Valentine."


But when a really good arrangement comes along like the
new(er) one of a chestnut--- but a sort of secret chestnut---
like Cole Porter's "Miss Otis Regrets" done up in a jazz
waltz tempo by someone whom I would call effortless then
it gives new life to the music. I'll look up the "Miss Otis
Regrets" vocalist if you want-- sounds like Marlena Shaw but isn't
her.


As to repertoire, I think that jazz vocalists are guardians
of the style in the same way that barbershop quartets are
guardians of the style. The HiLos under Gene Purling made it big
by using a variation on barbershop by putting the tenor on
the melody line and using orchestrations rather than accappella.
The Hilos are not barbershop even in that Forever Plaid period
of the early 60's.

I love voice and spoken word of all kinds.


Pamela Luss just seems to be better than some of the
other lounge singers which I hear over the air. I don't
know how they do it.


I'm not in radio anymore even as volunteer community
radio. But I've always wanted to play "That's Show Biz"
by The Reverend Horton Heat (Martini Time album) for a radio
audience. Find it if you can, broadcast it if you are able.
If I were doing a prog today, I'd probably use that as a closer.


Last time we did regular sign-off for a number of months
we used "My Way." Not the Sinatra "My Way", the Sid Vicious
"My Way." I can still hear my partner reading the station
sign off with Sid in the background and then going into the
National Anthem.




Re: New vocalist: Pamela Luss [message #6556 is a reply to message #6555] Fri, 17 March 2006 05:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I agree wholeheartedly regarding the experience and retro-approach. Say let me ask; why you haven't tried a podcast? It looks to me as if it would be right down your alley. Around here there is a pretty good markett for exactly the type of genre' you describe so I know the markett is there.

I am a big spoken word fan also; I think we spoke about Ken Nordine previously and I listen to William Burroughs with Material backing him. So do you have any recomendations along those lines?

I think the new crop of females just need to find their own voice and choice of material that defines their abilities; they have decent chops, but they try too hard.

Re: New vocalist: Pamela Luss [message #6570 is a reply to message #6556] Fri, 17 March 2006 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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More female vocalists: What I've noticed is that in the attempt to
become modern or "with it," a number of the new jazz vocalists attempt
to do lyrics put to mind-numbingly boring works by the likes of
Keith Jarret. This is _not_ the answer to finding your voice.

The lyrics to these ersatz jazz tunes are more like scripts than
anything that one would hum along to.


Glad you appreciate Ken Nordine. I have most of the original
vinyl and the stuff from Ken is still available. He even sent
me an email once.


Many spoken word things are available on file share. The ones to
look for are by the likes of Richard Buckley (60's comedian who
was a contemporary of Lenny Bruce) Brother Theodore Gottlieb who used
to be a regular on the Tonight Show and has done such off camera rolls as Gollum in the Ralph Bakshi Lord Of The Rings.


Many poets read their work like Gil Scott Heron and Ishmael Reed,
but I never got into the coffee house scene, Starbucks or anywhere else. Part of my role as cab driver was to educate the
public on these subjects. As I'm thinking about this now one
of my favorite spoken word pieces is "A Foreign Affair" written
by Tom Waits and performed by Manhattan Transfer.


Historically, radio drama was one of the best sources of
spoken word as anyone who has Well's War Of The Worlds
can attest. But the poet of radio was Norman Corwin.
Corwin's work is available in cd reproductions and is heard
here in Wisconsin on a special weekly program devoted to
Old Time Radio.

Re: New vocalist: Pamela Luss [message #6573 is a reply to message #6570] Fri, 17 March 2006 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Corwin; I'll have to look for that. Gil Scott Heron is an alltime fav. I listen to him on a daily basis and I play him in my car. All the kids who hang out with my son love the tapes now. Especially "Johannesburg", which just goes to show if you play it they will like it.

I have heard some rap that I thought was captivating. I just never get the chance to locate those recordings and I don't have the patience to wade through all the muck to find them.
If you know of any rap artists that are of substance let me know. I should be more educated along the lines of NWA or Africa Bombatta; stuff like that the good rap that tells stories of the streets in a poetical fashion.

Re: New vocalist: Pamela Luss [message #6574 is a reply to message #6573] Fri, 17 March 2006 20:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When Public Enemy released their first album, they established something
called The Thank You's at the end of the record. The thank yous would be
a litany of celebrities artists and historical figures in the black
heritage such as Martin Luther King, Nzake Shange, Toni Morrison, Paul Robeson, WEB Dubois
etc. We were pleased that the first list included The Last Poets. The Last Poets
was a collective that produced a few records in the 70's and were
contemporeaneous with Gil Scott Heron.


Not long ago I was surprised to learn that the Last Poets "When The
Revolution Comes" and "This Is Madness" were available on cd.

I requested that my local library make this part of acquisitions
which they did. Now new artists can hear the source material for
much of what rap has become.


I would start with the Last Poets.

Link is below.

Also if you keep an eye on www.half.com, some titles may
show up in there.


Lesson 2 will be The Care And Feeding Of The Signifying Monkey.




Re: New vocalist: Pamela Luss [message #6579 is a reply to message #6574] Sun, 19 March 2006 20:08 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Lon; Great post. I have ordered the Last Poets and as soon as I get it I'll let you know; sounds great. What is the theory of the Signifying Monkey? I know the song but not the thoery.
Good to see you are appearing regularly with music; brick by brick we get this music thing going.
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