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Firefly and Serenity [message #6165] Fri, 07 October 2005 02:21 Go to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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The movie that's out right now called Serenity is based on a television series called Firefly. Somehow, I completely missed the television series. I don't know if it gets limited exposure or it's just the fact that I'm too busy to watch any prime-time television. But anyway, I missed it.

Derk went to Serenity and said it was great. So I'm anxious to see it too. He bought the DVD for the Firefly television series and loaned it to me. So for the last couple of nights, I've watched an episode or two right before going to sleep.

I really have enjoyed this series. The very first episode is confusing for a couple of minutes, because they jump right into action, showing a brief bit of history. Some of the characters are in a battle scene, and you realize after a little bit that they are rebels on a side that eventually fails, sort of like the Jedis in Star Wars.

It's like a cross between the Millineum Falcon and Star Trek, with characters that live like they're in the wild west. It has really grown on me. If you liked the original Star Trek series, I think you'll probably like this one too. It has that kind of feel to me, a science fiction story that's different, unique enough to keep you interested but familiar enough to make you comfortable with the characters.


Re: Firefly and Serenity [message #6167 is a reply to message #6165] Fri, 07 October 2005 21:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wayne,

I've become a Browncoat as well. I have not watched tv for
10 years or so, the series was recommended to me and I
managed to see it in the dvd collection. There's also
a book about it which I read called "Finding Serenity"
which fills in some of the things that the series is
made of... like real Chinese curses and phrases. The
book has a pronunciation key so you can speak the
Chinese correctly. Other articles and essays come from
some of the writers, actors and even one on the music
are contained in "Finding Serenity."

I'll prob'ly wait til the dvd comes out or it hits the
budgets. I have one trusted source for film reviews.
That source is Susan Granger. She began writing for Usenet
when the internet was new and is a professional New york Critic.
Her internet pieces are brief, unlike some of the other
films buffs writing about movies. Susan said that Serenity was high
on fan service but was not the caliber of the big franchises.
This is too bad. I expected more from Joss Whedon. The
book Finding Serenity gives the definition of Joss which is
Chinese for "luck". Whedon changed his name when he became
a Hollywood joe I guess.

Even the IMDb has to be taken with a grain of salt seeing that
Serenity garnered 9 out of 10 stars (meaning "near perfect.")


At first I didn't know what to make of Firefly. My first
impression was that it was just another cutesy "concept
science fiction" production with the sort of clever dialog
all those Harvard grads that get hired by Hollywood are fond
of. That still pretty much holds true.


What I expected from the film may not have been portrayed
such as what The Rievers are all about. And I took some offense
at the prereleases going on for months in enclaves of
fandom like the LA and New York tryouts for the movie to build
word of mouth on it.


Trekkies and Browncoats share the desire for a better
future and better science fiction and I would add
"more of it."

I'm on my second time through watching Stargate SG1 dvds.
Somehow I accept the campiness in SG1 and willingly suspend
disbelief. In Firefly there aren't enough big ideas to
suspend anything. Well maybe one. But that's a
reply for another day.





Re: Firefly and Serenity [message #6170 is a reply to message #6167] Sat, 08 October 2005 07:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rievers was a term for nere-do-well travelers in the south back in the twenties who would travel around looking for odd jobs.
And that came from a title given to groups of armed marauders in Scotland on the Border with England who would steal cattle and sometimes kill the townspeople.

Re: Firefly and Serenity [message #6171 is a reply to message #6170] Sat, 08 October 2005 12:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here's a paraphrased quote from Firefly about the Rievers:

If they catch you, they torture you, rape you, kill you
skin and eat you... in that order, if you're lucky.


Think of it as The Space Family Manson.



Re: Firefly and Serenity [message #6172 is a reply to message #6171] Sat, 08 October 2005 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is that the G rated version?

Re: Firefly and Serenity [message #6174 is a reply to message #6172] Sat, 08 October 2005 12:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maybe there'll be a directors cut.


Re: Firefly and Serenity [message #6175 is a reply to message #6167] Sat, 08 October 2005 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I loved the series. Made me wonder why it was cancelled. I hope the movie spurs new interest, and the series is brought back for another season. All the characters and plots were so interesting, but they barely had time to get started. There is so much further they could go.


Re: Firefly and Serenity [message #6176 is a reply to message #6175] Sat, 08 October 2005 22:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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... 'made _me_ wonder' why it was on _Fox._

It had that "_Friends_ In Outer Space" quality I can't really
diagnose. But I watched it through a second time after
reading the book.




Re: Firefly and Serenity [message #6177 is a reply to message #6165] Sun, 09 October 2005 09:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I dig sci-fi, it makes me think something like on some starry night that there really could be something more out there... But seriously there are few things I like more, women, friends, caffiene, nicotine... And this is one of the best T.V. Sci-fi's Ive seen. It pulls some many cool elements together that you all have discussed but the asian/western feel is ultra cool and different. But it is one of the few seris I could watch over and over. Last night a beautiful woman and some friends enticed me to watch this until 3:30a.m when I had to be up for work at 6:30a.m so if that says anyting...

Limp Bizkit - Significant Other [message #6179 is a reply to message #6177] Sun, 09 October 2005 22:56 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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