Incidence of Violent Crime Victims self-defense from US Govt records. [message #58625] |
Tue, 13 June 2006 17:08 |
Manualblock
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Illuminati (13th Degree) |
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Here is the site with those stats. Less than .18% of gun related crimes are successfully defended according to the governments records. Here is the article PMID:7998641; hereis the published summary.It is well known that many of the violent crimes in the U.S. are committed with firearms. Less adequately documented is the frequency with which victims use guns in self-defense. We used National Crime Victims Information survey data to examine incidents where victims employed guns against offenders. Between 1987 and 1990 there were an estimated 258,459 incidents of firearm defense. An annual mean of 64,615. Victims used firearms in 0.18% of all crimes recorded by the survey and in 0.83% of violent offenses. Our conclusion? Firearm self- defense is very rare compared to gun crimes.
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The Second Amendment [message #58628 is a reply to message #58625] |
Wed, 14 June 2006 03:37 |
elektratig
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Putting the statistics aside for a moment, there is a compelling case that the Second Amendment provides an individual right to bear arms. The argument that the Second Amendment conveyed an individual right when it was originally ratified is fairly strong. Where it becomes compelling is after the Civil War, when Congress passed the Fourteenth Amendment, which applied the Bill of Rights against the states. The legislative history makes clear that, in so doing, the Radical Republicans controlling Congress were particularly outraged by terror campaigns in the South directed against Repubican sympathizers and former slaves by the Klu Klux Klan and similar organizations. Laws in southern states prohibited former slaves and others from owning weapons with which to defend themselves, and the Radical Republicans made clear that they viewed this as a violation of the Constitution. Congress had specifically in mind (among other things) the goal of giving individuals the right to keep and bear arms so they could deter and if necessary defend themselves against these threats. The issue is, of course, politically charged -- as your posts demonstrate. But the history is a no-brainer.
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Bowling for Columbine documentary [message #58629 is a reply to message #58627] |
Wed, 14 June 2006 03:58 |
Damir
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Did everyone see "Bowling for Columbine" awarded documentary movie by Michael Moore? About gun violence in USA - "Are we a nation of gun nuts or we are just nuts?" "...When I was just a baby, my mama told me, "Son, Always be a good boy; don't ever play with guns." But I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die."
Johnny Cash
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