Sorry Wayne I accept your response but I don't feel the same. This is the Dungeon where according to the mission statement anything goes. So I treat it as such; a place to thrash things out. I also disagree with your characterisation of me as"Raging" on a messageboard. I think anyone re-reading the posts would have a hard time seeing much in the way of "Raging". I believe if you look at the threads you might see numerous mentions by me of the great respect I have for everyone here. That is not facile or facetious; I say exactly what I think and thats what I think. If you look at the dictionary definition of the term Passive-Agression I think you might see that I am anything but. Oh; I have plenty of faults; thats just not one of them. My veiws surprisingly enough would not be considered liberal in much of the country; the real problem is no one has ever asked me what they are on this board. They just disagree with my process of questioning in order to dtermine exactly what people mean. On that note; I can disagree vehemently with someone and not dislike or disaprove of them. Most of my close friends I think would back me up on that. I do community service; why am I the one being told to do community service? I don't see you telling anyone else to do community service. Colin is a man; he started it; he should handle it. What positve statements has he made other than to provoke another go-around with that silly thread; he is another who refuses to committ himself and his views while spending time finding ways to disavow others. I had forgotten this and went away yesterday only to come back to another inning. Whats up with that?