"do you ever listen to yourself talk? yeah, I fade in and out"

John, do you think it's cost affective to send all the illegals home at this point?

Anyway do I think we should send them all home? Yes.
But that won't work so how to deal with the reality. Build a giant fence all the way and stop screwing around. Create immigrant task forces who must find and process as many as they can locate. Then send those individuals back who have not been working with the same company for at least five years. No you won't get them all; but yopu will create a climate where there is always the possibility that as an illegal you will be caught; fined and sent back, and now with proper enforcement you will not be able to return so easily. Now you will have to climb a huge fence and then possibly get caught and have to do it again. To implement these measures will cost less than the proposed solution and work better.
Then they may decide it is a better option to stay in their country with their families and try to make that a better place to live.
What do you think?

Economically speaking I think you have hit the nail on the head. If our government made it so a business could not employ an illegal then they would have no means of income and no reason to flood this country.

I don't know what should be done with the people here already, John. I'm with you, they have broken laws we live by.
The first step is making it next to impossible for people to cross our border if we don't want them to. I'm disturbed by the lack of leadership we have that could allow something of this magnitude to elevate to the state it is. probably been on a slow build up since Nixon.

I dont know if they are holding things together or not by doing jobs americans wont do. I was more or less teasing at the people who say the illegals are working so hard doing jobs Americans wont do.

I think there are a lot of jobs lots of people would rather ot do. what of it? I thought these jobs were for people starting out and then they move on or up to better jobs. Only a handful get to start at the top. The rest of us work our way up.

I dont know what to think anymore. Grumbling about it sure isnt changing things!

But the jobs Americans won't do; I see these guys doing landscaping; I've done that.
Carprentry; I've done that. Yard Clean-ups; I've done that.

What is it they are doing that we won't do? Other than picking strawberries which is shitty work I don't see them doning anything our guys won't do. I think that whole work we won't do schtick is BS.