When we went shopping for houses the first time, they took me to all these 2-5 year old homes. I crawled the attics, crawlspaces, jumped up and down on the floors. The realtor looked at me like I was crazy. I told her to take me to something that real carpenters built. Our first was 60yrs old 2 story brick. Very complex roofline. You could have gutted every interior wall without it moving an inch. Those old guys could do it. Framing that looks like finish work.