I'm impressed, frame and all! All I did to frames was straighten them out when kids slammed into copings, curbs and whatnot. I miss my shop, it was a fun business. Not much money though.

Resisting the temptation to wave the red cape and say what I am going to unwind....:)

As much as I'd like to see her solder her way through my Citation II refurb, I think I'll start her on a ground-up. It will be just building, not taking apart and then putting it back together. I am resisting the temptation to pull the Deuce apart and put it back together one bit at a time. All the little solid core inslation has gotten gooey and sticky as it de-polymerizes.
cheers,
Douglas

:::Not to brag, but I was a damn good wheelbuilder.:::

heh... that's something in my book.

:::I'm impressed, frame and all! All I did to frames was straighten them out when kids slammed into copings, curbs and whatnot. I miss my shop, it was a fun business. Not much money though.:::

Framebuilding was fun. I worked for Michael Melton back in 1980. Michael later went on and built the first gen funny bikes for the 84 olympic team. I still have the track tandem that I built in Mike's shop in SC. We took it to the NYC bike show in 1980 and it's been under wraps for the last 26 years... still a virgin.

right now I have the hots for a cinelli tradtional steel frame... while they are still available.

I never worked in a retail bike shop... that takes lot of patience...
and other folks have told me.... it's not the place to get rich either :=)

If you were a good wheel builder you should be adept at diy'ing amps I would guess.

msl

Your tube discussions on other forums here leave me in the dust. Not much on theory anymore, but give me a schematic and I can probably build it, point to point anyway. I tried making a pc board once . Maybe it's easier now.

the group build section-- notwithstanding your desgin, which I've not seen-- is gettting utterly stale...

it's just the hawking of one person's circuit design and his incessant shilling on behalf of one company who he claims to have a "close" relationship with... with not a dash of creativity or inspiration over the last several months... and it's effectively a closed forum that is dominated by one strong personality... not much room at all for others to creatively contribute... nor the climate which would encourage such contributions... it has become one guy's battlefield... fortunately, there are many alternatives.

When I've posted several proposals for recommending a viable, impartial, voluntary, and fair game plan as regards testing for example (and lord knows why that is even in a group buy forum).... each of them have been yanked down... that surely shuts the door toward creating an open envirnment that encourages participation, creativity, equal access, and etc...

I would encourage Leland to look around the web and see the really cool projects that are out there... you can email me privately at acrosound@aol.com and I will try to give you some pointers.

and Leland, stick around, it can only get better :=)

msl

so that I can try to bee more positive :=)

:::Woodworking, old cars, and old house(more than a hobby) have been the main hobbies for quite a while.:::

Well that sounds like more than enough to keep any one guy busy. I like old cars as well... and especially race cars, motorcycles, and street hot rods... are you restoring an old car currently?

Woodworking... I am sure you've been over to the Craftsman forum here at ART, right? It's one of my fave spots here. But I am a complete neophyte when it comes to woodworking.

:::Your tube discussions on other forums here leave me in the dust. Not much on theory anymore, but give me a schematic and I can probably build it, point to point anyway.:::

Boring as shit, heh? sort of like talking to a bunch of brake and suspension engineers if your a layperson.. the angle of the vanes, the pitch of the vanes, the area, the cooling surface... all we hot rodders want to know is will it stop this sprint car at the end of the shoot before I go over the wall and out of the park :+))

so... apologies... and I mean this somewhat sincerely... we should all be exploring the benefits of or the excitement of audio... not playing weenie engineer with each other and to impress the newbee's...

So... often... on any group of forums... they become egnineering centric... and you get a bunch of guys talking about the most mundance shit... and arguing with each other...

whereas, all of us (including me) need to be more helpful and try to focus on offering practical advice and guidance as opposed to dishing out arcane magnetic theory...

even I find the technical discussions of which is better a SRPP or a CF.... boring, boring, snooze.... someone wake me up...

thanks for the compliment... and I realize it was offered sincerely... and it's appreciated...

but you don't want to hear all that technical dry bullshit stuff...

you might want to make something beautiful that sounds good...

best of with the 7pi's... are they a kit?

What wood you gonna use? Any pics? Start yet?

msl

Kansas and old houses... seems picturesque.... idyllic even. Not like an east coast urban center (philly).

I have a 65 lemans convertible almost done. New top, interior, stereo (to die for, I know how to do car audio right), are all that's left. If I could get about 4 days off I could finish it.

Wood shop time for the last year has been building Fitz's stuff for my son's band. Amp racks, subs, mains, mixer rack, monitors, the works. Two more tops and subs in production right now. Winter time is shop time. My business peaks in the spring and summer and time off then is pretty scarce.

I really want to try some tube amps or gainclones. Gainclones strike me as a good place to start tinkering. Easier than tube amps.

I was trying to find the 7pis on the Pi site with no luck. can you post a url for the kit?

If you want to wait a year or two... we have a large cherry that's gotta come down on some land that I have in upstate Pa. I was offered some big bucks for the tree... but when she comes down I am going to have it sawn up into boards instead of selling it. I have a boatload of soft maple from some downed trees on my land that is drying.

your lemans convertible... very nice... what powerplant? wasn't the lemans the early or predecessor of the GTO?

mentioning the gain clones... they have also caught my attention... and my ears. I heard a pair of the 47 lab amps and thought they sounded really good. They are, as you suggest, simple to build and quite inexpensive as kits.

speaking of simple... over on diyaudio.com there's a thread on some really "easy to build" tube preamps that run on 24 volts... it's in the tube forum. I didn't know a 6dj8 or a 6c45pi could be run on such low voltage.

and if you ping Steve Eddy (say over on the tube amp and preamp board here at ART) ask (though technically the wrong forum) him about his "one" amp... small as a pen holder SS amp... SE looks like he is doing so cool stuff with simple solid state circuits with input tranneys...

ask SE to put up his "friends don't let friends use AC" button...

What city or town in Kansas are you in?

msl