Anyway, Damir has said that he thinks all of my posts are spam. And that in his opinion they should all be deleted. Considering there are very few posters on this site and I am probably the newest member here then I will take the hint. Far be it from me to spoil a good liberal lovefest. I'm not blaming Damir for anything. I guess I have just had enough anyway. Nothing ever gets solved in these kind of discussions and it just takes up too much time. So goodbye my liberal friends. I'll reserve the right to post should Libby and Delay be found innocent but other than that it's been fun.

Also I hope you guys don't mind if I occasionally post on the audio boards of this site. If those posts are also considered spam then I guess it's back to the Audio Asylum. A fate worse than death.

The Dungeon was intended for beefs and bitches about audio topics. It was never intended to be one man's blog for radical leftist ideology. Its time to cut the crap and move the political polemic elsewhere and return to audio topics

Bob

you need to stick around to keep MB in check. If crude rude and abusive post cost art money. the forum will become moderated or deleted just like all the other forums that start with an ideal and then need to meet the criteria of sponsers.

The Dungeon is a different matter entirely. It is an appendage, having only a loose affiliation. It is hosted on the same server, and is visited by mostly the same people that visit the audio forums on ART. But it doesn't have the same rules, and doesn't really have any particular purpose. The Dungeon wasn't an original part of ART. It was added later because the relatively strict moderation of the "above ground" audio forums, which wouldn't allow things like venting. The Dungeon has a much looser format, allowing horseplay.

What I'd really like to see is for people to be stand up guys, responsible for their own actions. There are no rules here, so behavior here is truly self-governed. If you insult someone and then say, "well hey, this is a no-rules zone, you should have expected it" - you're just going to hurt people. There's really no good that comes from pushing people's buttons. You might win an argument, you might not. But you'll definitely lose a friend.

The good news is you can always turn around, change your tone and everyone here is probably still your friend. At least I know I am. I am always happy to see a guy shake off a resentment or whatever. We all change, go through seasons. I've been through them, and so has everyone else. Except Epstein, he's always a nice guy. And LeJeune. Thank God for the kind souls. They help me stay balanced. Or more honestly, they help me regain balance when I get off the beam.

My suggestion is to refrain from power driven argument. I've learned that from experience. I'm very bad at that, because many times I am extremely forceful, driven by absolute certainty. I've done a lot of things that were absolutely 100% right and then had some yahoo come at me with nonsense. Some of them are even well respected members of the audio community, which tends to make me even more determined. But I've found that power driven argument rarely is productive, and about the only thing that happens is hurt feelings. Seems pretty simple, but it can be hard to avoid getting worked up sometimes. Still, I think it's good to govern oneself.

Just try to be cool. Pick on your enemies, not on each other.

Its easy to get out of line and push the buttons. I agree, you just loose friends

To the dungeon!

I mean as long as we are laying cards on the table; thats my hand. Not directed to anyone except myself and how I believe it is right to behave. Everyone here has something of value to be offered; thats why I try not to judge people. I judge politicians because that is the game they signed up to play; but not individuals.