A connosower ehh. There used to be about 8 or ten vinyards on the island here and they would have tastings where you could have as many glasses as you wanted without question. We would end up with S--- on our faces coming home; hitting each one as they appeared. Now there must be 30 or more and they are all prissy about your tasting habits. Little tiny cups. Each one is owned by some Dentist or Doctor from Park Avenue looking for the tax write-off. Only now the land is so valuable it isn't worth it anymore and they sell to developers. I liked Pindar. Lot's of good Wineries upstate; no? Ever make your own?