Let's see the had free elections with millions participating. Many more than expected. And they are working on a constitution. Sounds like they "are" showing signs of a "wonderful democratic government".

That said I am not saying if it will succeed or not. If it does succeed though, GW Bush goes down in history as one of the great presidents. Of course the Democrats can't have that. They will do everything in their power to make sure it doesn't. Stay tuned. It should be interesting.

Apparently this is in the eye of the beholder. No one ever said it would be quick or easy. And of course the odds are against it. But we will just have to wait and see.

"If it doesn't succeed; what will that make him?"

It would make him someone that tried to do the right thing for the country knowing the odds where against him. Also someone that did the right thing knowing how much was at stake both politically and morally. A man that put country first and not polls first. Basically a leader. Am I happy with everything that has gone on? No. Am I happy people had to die? No.

"Define success"

Freedom, Democracy in Iraq. A safer US and world in the long run. (note: I said long run. Of course during the war, things will get more dangerous.)The very things that the terrorists are against. However it was very important to show the enemies of the US that we would not sit idly by and let evil deeds go unpunished (AKA Clinton). They now know we mean business (as long as there is a true Republican in office anyway). This in and of it self could be defined as success in my book.

I see we are getting silly now.