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Re: Silent voice [message #56678 is a reply to message #56676] Tue, 16 August 2005 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manualblock is currently offline  Manualblock
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Bingo! Because that is how he chooses to react. We are not the arbitors of proper response to a childs death. He did what he wants and she did what she wants.

Re: Cindy's single soon [message #56679 is a reply to message #56674] Tue, 16 August 2005 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There's no tone here; it's just us. And I admitt to a selfish motive for prolonging this. I need a personal framework within which to try and understand the thinking that dictates what her response to this tragedy should be. A woman who is an avowed anti-war activist loses her son in the war.
How should she behave..what exactly is the protocal here?.
She takes to the streets in her anguish to protest the war by asking for an audience with her elected representative.
And thats wrong..why?
People choose up sides and determine for themselves what her proper rights and behaviours should be.
Exploiting her sons death?? Sorry I just don't get how that can be. Unless you feel she wants money or fame more than she wants her son.
By that logic; anyone against the war has no standing if a person who loses a son has no standing. Then every one who protests the war is exploiting something. And there is no such thing as personal convictions.



Re: Silent voice [message #56680 is a reply to message #56678] Tue, 16 August 2005 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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If your wife used the death of your child to promote a Rebublican agenda, how would you feel? Not only would you have lost a child, but you would suffer the media frenzy going over and over the matter, with your wife taking a side that you despise.

Cindy Sheehan isn't the only one affected by her actions. She and those behind her have exploited her son and discounted the feelings and wishes of the rest of her family.

I think it was a selfish move on her part and I think the political parties have jumped in to take advantage of the propoganda.


Re: Cindy's single soon [message #56681 is a reply to message #56679] Tue, 16 August 2005 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The tone I am speaking of is the public tone. I don't normally involve myself in these kinds of discussions. But I do see them on the various media outlets, and that's what I'm talking about.


Re: Silent voice [message #56682 is a reply to message #56680] Tue, 16 August 2005 12:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hm, who exploited her son? And for what purpose? That is the question.

Re: Silent voice [message #56683 is a reply to message #56682] Tue, 16 August 2005 12:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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He was exploited to make a political statement.


Re: Silent voice [message #56684 is a reply to message #56683] Tue, 16 August 2005 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think he is dead. And, I talk about exploiting while he was alive.
I know that many don`t like it, but his mother has the right to said something about it, alone or through political party, movement,media, whatever. Of course, some people wish her silent...

Re: Silent voice [message #56685 is a reply to message #56684] Tue, 16 August 2005 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think one of the people that wants her silent is her husband.

I don't think either political party really wants her silenced, because I think they're both getting their voices heard. It has become an opportunity to polarize the public and promote political agendas.

That's what I mean by exploitation. I think this family is being used for media attention and political gain.


Re: Cindy's single soon [message #56686 is a reply to message #56681] Tue, 16 August 2005 12:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know what you mean't, thats why between us we can mirror the public tone and see where people and the public differ. After the Schiavo thing it became obvious that someway the public has become an arbitor of personal behaviour instead of just spectators with opinions. That to me is bizzare in a bad way. It is almost like the Pilgrims portrayed in the Scarlett Letter; how they decide in committe how people are allowed to behave in their private lives. That was the whole purpose of the 60's rebellion. To refute that concept. While this discussion may be tireing it is valuable in a positive way. It has allowed us to see into the issue without the clouds of perception filtered through spin and propoganda.
To me anyway.
Someday we may have to act on these opinions ourselves.

Re: Silent voice [message #56687 is a reply to message #56685] Tue, 16 August 2005 12:50 Go to previous message
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O'Kay so it isn't Cindy that is exploiting her son it's the media?
I have purposefully not followed this event in the news because I want my own perspective. Where does the husband claim he is upset by her actions and what exactly does he complain about?

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