| Something Has Occurred To Me [message #55504] |
Sat, 19 August 2006 11:11  |
Manualblock
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I see a lot of folks disputing what they read in the papers and see on the TV news. And I have to wonder; if you feel the news or the TV is misleading then that implies that you know what the real story is; otherwisw how would you know they are not telling the truth?
So my question is; since individuals know the real story that the news isn't telling; where do they get their information? And how do they know their information is accurate?
I would love to see the sources of news and info that these folks have; and see their dedicated line to the undeniable truth.
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| Two points [message #55509 is a reply to message #55506] |
Sun, 20 August 2006 08:12  |
wunhuanglo
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First, anyone who has been involved in a news story knows that what's in the papers only roughly approximates what actually happened. I think people are rightfully circumspect about news reporting. Second, the only way to get to the "truth" of the matter is to bounce as many sources as possible against each other. It's a lot easier today than it was 20 years ago when I had to go to the News in Harvard Square and scan ('till they got pissed) and buy a handful of out-of-town papers and read what they had to say. Today you can go to Google news and compare 300 or 400 news accounts and research the apparent conflicts, not to mention the personal web sites that beat the hell out some single facet of every major news story. In short, there's virtually no single resource for reliable, just-the-facts-ma'am reporting. Like most things in life, if you want it done right....
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| I get that you don't want to hear more from me but [message #55512 is a reply to message #55511] |
Sun, 20 August 2006 10:35 |
wunhuanglo
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it's facinating to read the history of print journalism (newspapers and broadsheets) in this country since colonial times. It's only a recent innovation that the concept of unbiased reporting has even been accepted as a journalistic standard, never mind how well it's implemented. For at least the first two hundred years papers were as unbiased as a copy of The Watchtower. Most newspapers were worse than Faux News - not even pretending to state the facts no matter how they couched them. A tradition of opinion oriented news is an old and ignoble tradition in this country.
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| Re:Au' Contrair; of course I want to hear from you [message #55515 is a reply to message #55512] |
Sun, 20 August 2006 13:52 |
Manualblock
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Yes; I know the whole history of print journalism. How the various political parties and business interests appropriated the editorial line as well as manufactured much of the news. Read about the wild west; was there ever any truth to that era printed?
But I think that as the century progressed and the means of communication improved; stories were able to be verified and cross-checked. The concept of a company newspaper that printed only what would benefit them faded as people were able to verify facts and events.
I guess the golden age of journalism began in the fifties with the big names Like Edward R. Murrows who defied the Senate to print stories that put an end to the M'Carthy trials.
The news organisations had to bend over backwards to appear to be unbiased in response to so many years of favoritism; so we had a distinct wariness of big business and politics.
Considering the pressure from Religous and business and political entities the fact that the newspapers were able to get any news out there at all is a miracle.
Even now here on Long Island we have a major struggle between the Bishop of the Catholic Diocese and our Local newspaper about whether to print articles that might show illegal aliens in a bad light. Think it's a tempest in a teapot? We lost a good representative as a result of the pressure from the Religous vote to prevent any talk of apprehending illegals and deporting them.
The paper stuck to it's guns disregarding a large loss of revenue from the parishoners complaining to advertisers at the request of the Bishop.
That is journalism of the best calibre. Thats why I still trust the papers over most of the other available media.
How is the reporting your way? On TV I see a lot of criticism of the local politicians from your area but a lot of defending of the federal government. Not in our newspapers.
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