Oh yeah, I knew watcha meant the first time I ever heard you use that expression. I just find it hugely amusing. However there is another way to look at it. In order to manipulate the sock puppet itself you must insert your hand into the ass end of the sock then use your fist to manipulate the head..... of the Sock, if you catch my drift. He would go away if we ignored him. While we are here the discussion of power supplies buried in the Welborne thread; any chance that could be revived;(I mean the power supply part). I find power supplies pretty interesting and some explanations would be very helpful.