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old version of Pi4 pro [message #52644] Tue, 16 September 2008 11:19 Go to next message
vladimir4 is currently offline  vladimir4
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Hi Wayne,

I finally started to build my new-old project - 4 pi pro-like using Beyma 15M300, JBL 2426h & Eminence H290. I've two questions:

I saw that you've developed recently new crossovers, I'd like to ask if it fits also to my configuration - or I better stay with the old-one.

Is there any benefits (audiophile point of view) to add Deltas in mid-horns to this configuration ?

Could you resend me plans for this configuration please ?

Thank you in advance, Vlad.

Re: old version of Pi4 pro [message #52646 is a reply to message #52644] Tue, 16 September 2008 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Use the new crossover, as it has smoother response through the crossover region.

The two-way matched-directivity configuration trades simplicity and fewer crossover points for higher bandwidth required of the midwoofer. The three-way cornerhorn configuration reduces bandwidth, in turn reducing IMD, while retaining matched directivity but it is a more complex system with one more crossover point.

Both designs offer controlled directivity that results in smooth response on and off axis over a wide 90 x 40 pattern. The two-way has collapsing directivity up to 1kHz, becoming constant by 2kHz or so. The three-way begins to become directional down around 300Hz, just above the room's modal region.

Re: old version of Pi4 pro [message #52654 is a reply to message #52646] Thu, 18 September 2008 18:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vlad is currently offline  vlad
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Wayne,
Thank you for reply. I will stay with 2-way. Regarding your new xover, as 15M300 is in 100dB/W range so I suppose I need 2-3dB less attenuation for the compression driver - how to do it? I suppose I could also adapt C5 R3 to fit Beyma's Le ; any other adaptation to be considered ? Thanks, Vlad

Re: old version of Pi4 pro [message #52655 is a reply to message #52654] Thu, 18 September 2008 21:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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From the spec sheets, it looks a lot like the JBL 2226H. I'd start from there. Don't use the standard formula for Zobels, that's the way the old crossover was. I found that this design responds favorably to a smaller capacitor in the Zobel. Of course, I haven't tested with the 15M300, so there may be some differences but I would suggest starting out with the assumption that it acts similarly to the JBL 2226H and make changes if needed.


Re: old version of Pi4 pro [message #52658 is a reply to message #52655] Fri, 19 September 2008 18:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vlad is currently offline  vlad
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Wayne, thanks a lot
Vlad.

Re: old version of Pi4 pro [message #52661 is a reply to message #52655] Sat, 20 September 2008 05:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vlad is currently offline  vlad
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Wayne,
could you please resend me plans for professional 4Pis (so with 15" and 1" JBL components ?) TIA, Vlad

You've got mail! [message #52663 is a reply to message #52661] Sat, 20 September 2008 13:20 Go to previous message
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