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2226 Box size questions, or, where're my ears? [message #52338] Fri, 18 July 2008 09:35 Go to next message
Bill Epstein is currently offline  Bill Epstein
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The new crossovers deserve a new box, and, BTW, I found a plywood at work (Lowes item #161485 - $36.00)that looks like the old 'marine' plywoood with no discernible voids and an "A" side.

I'm pondering the following box parameters:

The 4 Pi Pro has 3 cu ft with the horn center about 20" above the floor,

The JBLPro recommended enclosure guide has 4 cu ft with the horn center (perched on top) about 28" above the floor with a clunky depth of 18",

My current box has 4 cu ft and the horn center 35" above the floor.

All 3 are tuned to 40 hz.

My ears, when I'm seated in my listening chair, are 37 " above the floor.

I haven't heard the 4Pi Pro since Lima, and that was in the auditorium with a Kilomax, so I have no way to judge the relative merits of the 2 different box volumes. Spkrman thinks the 3677 cabinet size with it's shallow depth sounds better than a shorter, deeper cabinet and it puts the center of the horn at nearly ear level which is why I built my current box that size: 21Wx32Hx13D.

I definitely trust Wayne's judgement on using the smaller box but the horn is low and I'm not comfortable with angling the cabinet upward, changing the coupling to the floor. If I go with the 3 cu ft box I'll probably build a lower chamber filled with sand to raise the height (*** that must be where Plant and Krauss got the idea for the name of their new CD!***), but, oh, my back.

OTOH, I really like the quality and quantity of the bass and lower mids with 4 cu ft and the new crossover.

What's a boy to do?



Build several 2226 cabinets! [message #52339 is a reply to message #52338] Fri, 18 July 2008 10:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
spkrman57
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Bill,

Then you can tell all of us how they differ!

Have you damped your cabinets to kill off the bad vibrations yet?

BTW - My MC-240 is on its way home. I'm tired of SS sound for now. Plenty of volume, lacks the magic of tubes!

Regards, Ron

Re: 2226 Box size questions, or, where're my ears? [message #52340 is a reply to message #52338] Fri, 18 July 2008 12:19 Go to previous message
Matts is currently offline  Matts
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depending on the size of the room, I'm not that worried about the ear level "rule", especially with a horn. I think that started when those highly directional 1" tweeters were the rage. I like the size of the Pi4 cabs in my room and there's excellent dispersion all over, up and down and across.

Speaking of Plant and Krauss, I saw them a week or so ago and it was an incredible show! I hadn't heard any of the album and didn't know what to expect, but it blew everyone away. They did songs from the album, a few Zeppers (Black Dog was great!), and Allison did a few solo, including going down to the river to pray. If there'd been a river, everyone would have been in it! If you get a chance to see them don't miss it.

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