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klipshorn [message #50508] Wed, 10 January 2007 19:42 Go to next message
art mateo is currently offline  art mateo
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I'm interested in building a klipschorn but i wonder if my 2a3 tube amp can drive it efficiently?

Re: klipshorn [message #50512 is a reply to message #50508] Thu, 11 January 2007 09:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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The seven π is easier to build and I would suggest that it sounds better too. It uses better drivers in a better configuration.

I really like the Klipschorn a lot, so I don't want to knock it too much. It sounds nice. But there are a few things I never liked about the design, and the seven π addresses these problems. For one thing, the Klipschorn bass bin is used much too high for a folded basshorn. This gives vocals and other midrange a sort of woody sound. The Klipschorn midrange driver is also pushed too low. The transition between bass and midrange is strained as a result.

Midrange from 200Hz up is all-important. This is where the fundamentals of many instruments fall - piano, guitar, voice, everything. You really don't want this band passing through long labyrinthine folded-basshorn passages as used in the Klipschorn. This causes standing waves with associated peaks and notches in response, path length delays that make proper summing impossible, panel vibrations and other unwanted problems.

The seven π midhorn is set so that it crosses-over from the bass bin at a low enough frequency to be within 1/4λ, maintaining single-point source operation. It is large enough that the low frequency midrange driver does not strain it at all. You can really hear the improvement in sound quality using this approach.


Re: klipshorn [message #50514 is a reply to message #50508] Thu, 11 January 2007 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill Wassilak is currently offline  Bill Wassilak
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Go with Waynes suggeston, I've known people that have built just 1 klipshorn and they said they'd never do it again, they were going to go buy the second one.

Re: klipshorn [message #50518 is a reply to message #50512] Thu, 11 January 2007 18:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you for the information that you posted, Wayne. Can my 2a3 tube amplifier drive the klipschorn?



Re: klipshorn [message #50520 is a reply to message #50518] Thu, 11 January 2007 22:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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It probably depends on the amp, but the Klipschorn doesn't present a terribly difficult impedance load so I doubt it will be a problem for you. If you want more information on Klipschorns, you might ask on the Klipsch forum.


Re: klipshorn [message #50522 is a reply to message #50520] Fri, 12 January 2007 09:17 Go to previous message
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Seems like Akhilesh was using his 12B4 on his Khorns at one time. Way less power than a 2A3 amp.

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