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Side Firing Sub [message #50510 is a reply to message #50504] |
Thu, 11 January 2007 04:44 |
FredT
Messages: 704 Registered: May 2009
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Good idea! If I were doing this I probably would use a different design from the One Pi, with an Eminence Beta 8 in a sealed chamber instead of the Alpha 8 in a ported one. The Beta 8 has greater power handling capacity and it will perform well in a sealed box as small as 0.3 cu ft. A good economical woofer section could include the Dayton 10" DVC sub that's on sale for $25. You could drive it with the 75 watt MCM plate amp that's now on sale for $40. The Dayton DVC sounds really good in a 1.5 cu ft sealed enclosure, so everything would fit fine in the original One Pi Tower enclosure with the mid, tweeter section sealed off from the woofer section just below the Beta 8. Here's another idea that would be helpful if you were driving this with flea power SET amps like my Paramours. You could drive the subs' plate amps directly from the line output of the preamp and insert a passive high pass filter at each SET amp's input to roll off it's output below 100hz. Relieving the amps of low bass duty would enhance their ability to drive the Beta 8's. Now I'm confused about which version of the enhanced One Pi tower I should build:)
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Re: Xover thoughts... [message #50521 is a reply to message #50519] |
Thu, 11 January 2007 23:45 |
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Wayne Parham
Messages: 18787 Registered: January 2001
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I would use a 2.5-way crossover, measure it and see how it goes. I can't see any reason it wouldn't provide everything you would want. The idea is to crossover one woofer at a relatively low frequency, so both are playing down low. Then run the second woofer up to the tweeter crossover point. The low frequency woofer should be mounted low in the box, and the midwoofer should be mounted higher. I'd put them all on the same baffle, aligned vertically. The low woofer isn't as critical with respect to placement, just make sure it's within 1/4λ at the crossover point.I would run the low woofer up to 150Hz or 200Hz, so that it can smooth the floor bounce modes that would exist for the upper woofer were it to be operated alone. As I said, I would position it no further than 1/4λ below the midwoofer at the crossover point. Tweeter crossover is about a decade above low woofer cutoff, around 2kHz. The tweeter should be placed just above the midwoofer, less than 1/4λ away at its crossover point. Each of these crossovers can be made first-order, because none of the drivers is particularly sensitive to over-excursion, and each driver is to be placed within 1/4λ of the adjacent driver at the crossover point.
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It Could Be A While [message #50536 is a reply to message #50509] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 03:52 |
FredT
Messages: 704 Registered: May 2009
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All this talk about the Studio One Pi motivated me to pull my One Pi towers out of my cavernous speaker storage warehouse (a small upstairs bedroom:) and set them in the system for a few days. I have to admit these speakers are hard to beat just as they are with one 8" woofer. They probably woulnd't fare as well as most high end speakers in an anechoic chamber test, but it a real room they sound very "right" - tight and reasonably extended bass, warm midrange, just enough treble sparkle to let you know they are quality speakers, and no hard edges anywhere. Anyway, I have all the parts for a couple of other projects including enclosure refinishing for a pair of Cornwalls, so I believe I'll set this project on the back burner. Somebody has asked about buying the existing One Pi tower enclosures, and if he does I'll be left with a pair of one Pi kits with no enclosure, and that will provide the motivation to buy another pair of Alpha 8's and get started on the dual woofer towers. In the meantime if anybody else in the Houston area wants the tower enclosures they're $100 with internal damping material, bi wire spkr terminals and ports installed (and your word you'll order the One Pi kits from Wayne).
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