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Re: Hornresp models, 0.5pi vs 1pi? [message #50320 is a reply to message #50245] Tue, 28 November 2006 22:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
swett is currently offline  swett
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Do you find that the experimental results for the midhorn correspond better to a 0.5pi space or 1pi? Since the midhorn is a substantial distance from the floor and ceiling, I would expect the loading to be 1pi, not 0.5pi.

The efficiency numbers seem to match up a bit better in 1pi space, at around 104db vs 107db, but besides that there aren't huge differences.

Re: Hornresp models, 0.5pi vs 1pi? [message #50321 is a reply to message #50320] Tue, 28 November 2006 23:34 Go to previous message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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The measurement of the seven π midhorn shown in the previous post was not normalized to any particular reference value, so don't take its SPL as a 1W/1M or 2.83v/1M figure. The measurement was done in a relatively small room with reflections gated out. The horn and microphone were placed on the ground and pulled away from all walls. The microphone distance and power level used was arbitrary; I was really just looking for response curve shape, not SPL.

As for Hornresp models of the seven π midhorn, quarter-space and eight-space simulations generate similar response curve shape, with the only real difference being on-axis SPL. When the radiating angle is increased to half-space or more, response becomes more peaky that I would want, so I wouldn't recommend using this horn as a single midhorn outdoors. Indoors, in a small to medium size room, consider it as eighth-space when used in corners, even though it is several feet above the ground. In a very large room, consider it as quarter-space.

The radiation angle modeled in Hornresp is really only a perfectly accurate description of speakers used outdoors. That would mean open free air, suspended high above the ground for free-space (4π), sitting on the ground (flush) for half-space (2π), on the ground with a rear or side boundary for quarter-space(π) or sitting in a trihedral corner for eighth-space (π/2). The area beyond the boundaries would have to be open for the model to truly describe the radiating angle. There would have to be no ceiling or opposing walls, not enclosed in a room.

The intended application of the seven π midhorn is to be mounted above a bass bin, elevating it a few feet off the ground. So in a purely eighth-space environment (outdoors with speaker sitting in a trihedral corner facing outwards), the midhorn is high enough off the ground for it to be radiating into quarter-space through its passband. The horn's LF cutoff combines with a null from ground reflection to rolloff the lower midrange, setting its crosover point acoustically.

However, indoors, you have a sort of fractional space that isn't exactly any of the "pie slice" spherical angles described above. Depending on the wavelengths and the size of the room, it can actually act as a smaller radiating angle than eighth-space. This of course also brings room modes into play, but most of the midhorn's passband is above the modal range. At the lowest frequencies, room modes are an issue, but complex summing between the midhorn and bass bin actually mitigates room modes and smoothes response as a result. That's one of the benefits of having such a large midhorn, one that can play the lowest midrange frequencies.

For the seven π midhorn, installed as intended, I'd consider a small to medium sized room to act like eighth-space even though the horn is several feet off the ground. Only in a very large room or outdoors does it act like it is radiating into quarter-space.


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