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Question for FredT re: One-Pi Towers [message #49703] Wed, 12 July 2006 14:50 Go to next message
GarMan is currently offline  GarMan
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Fred,

1.5 cu ft with 4"d x 4"l port. That would make it an EBS alignment right? Have you experienced power handling issues with the Alpha8 yet with this alignment? How about loose or flabby bass?

thx,
Gar.

Re: Question for FredT re: One-Pi Towers [message #49708 is a reply to message #49703] Thu, 13 July 2006 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just re-measured the port, and it's a bit shy of 4"ID by 4-1/2" long. According to WinISD this gives you a 53 to 54hz tuning freq in a 1.5 cu ft enclosure. I had started with a 2 cu ft, then reduced it to a 1.8 and then to a 1.5 to get the best possible bass extension without the hump that accompanies a too-large enclosure.

I have since experimented with wood blocks inserted in the enclsoue to yield a smaller volume and decided 1.3 cu ft might be just a bit better, so I'm building another pair from scratch with that volume. This pair will have a 3" X 2-1/2" long port (using a 3" port instead of a 4" is for cosmetic purposes - with the 4" you can see the stuffing inside the speaker, and the 3" is plently large for this application). I'll be using baltic birch veneer plywood for this one because my supplier had some nice looking 3/4" eleven ply for $31/sheet. I asked Wayne about the encl volume and port size when I ordered the new One Pi kits, and he agreed the 1.3 ft enclosure with a 3" X 2.5D" port would be a good combination.

Did I mention the enclosure volume is determined by where you put a false bottom within the enclosure. The actual outside dimensions are 9.5" wide (the narrowest width that will accommodate the Alpha 8 driver, 11.5" deep (the greatest width that will enable me to get four panels from a 48" wide sheet of mdf or plywood), and 36" tall (the height that places the tweeter just above ear level). These dimensions enable me to make two enclosures, including top, bottom, and three braces per enclosure, from one 4X8 sheet.

Regarding the power handling, I've found they will play very loud without overexcursion, even with classical organ music. The bass isn't quite as tight as I would like, but I wouldn't describe it as loose.

Correction [message #49709 is a reply to message #49708] Fri, 14 July 2006 03:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I incorrectly stated the outside depth is 11.5". That's the width of the side panels, making the inside depth 11.5" and the outside depth 12.75".

Re: Question for FredT re: One-Pi Towers [message #49710 is a reply to message #49708] Fri, 14 July 2006 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the detail Fred. I was considering rebuilding my One-Pi and thought of going with a larger volume. I like the curve that models out with 1 cu ft box and will probably stay with that size.

What difference did you hear, going from 2 to 1.8 to 1.5 and finally to 1.3 cu ft?

Gar.

Re: Question for FredT re: One-Pi Towers [message #49712 is a reply to message #49708] Fri, 14 July 2006 09:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hy Fred . the $ 31 / sheetof baltic birch is 4 x 8 and where do you buy them . does them sell in the San Antonio area or only Houston m. thanks

Re: Question for FredT re: One-Pi Towers [message #49713 is a reply to message #49712] Fri, 14 July 2006 14:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My plywood @ MDF source is Houston Hardwoods. They're located only in Houston.

Re: Question for FredT re: One-Pi Towers [message #49714 is a reply to message #49710] Fri, 14 July 2006 14:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The subjective bass impact is stronger with the larger volumes, but it's also more boomy.

Hey, Wayne [message #49715 is a reply to message #49708] Fri, 14 July 2006 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey, Wayne, will you jump in here and give us some expert advice on enclsoure volumes and tuning for the Eminence Alpha 8.

Also [message #49716 is a reply to message #49713] Fri, 14 July 2006 14:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Take a look at their John Boos kitchen products. Their 1-1/2" cutting boards would make excellent amp stands. 18X12 is $50, 24X18 is $83. Stick a set of gold Parts Express cones under one and you would have a nice looking amp stand.

Re: Also [message #49717 is a reply to message #49716] Fri, 14 July 2006 18:45 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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thanks a lot Fred.

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