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Check out this woofer [message #48649]

Sat, 21 January 2006 18:47

Bill Epstein
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Registered: May 2009
Location: Smoky Mts. USA

Illuminati (2nd Degree)

95dB, 29 Fs, $230 bucks

Usher 15M

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Re: Check out this woofer [message #48650 is a reply to message #48649]

Sat, 21 January 2006 23:01

Shane
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Registered: May 2009

Illuminati (3rd Degree)

Cool!

We used to use the Peavey Black Widow 1202-4 and the 1801-8's in our setup when we were playing gig's. They are both good sounding speakers, but the FS is better on the Usher. The 1202-4's are made to be used in horns.

http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-PEV-BW18018LT--m-11_17_420_599--d-2.html

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Re: Check out this woofer [message #48653 is a reply to message #48649]

Sun, 22 January 2006 19:14

ToFo
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Registered: May 2009

Master

Yes!
I was looking at these too. Looks like they would make a solid mid sized two-way without the need for a sub(4.5 cubic feet). Since you're not afraid of big boxes check the Usher 15PA. Simulate it in 6.8 cubic feet @ 32Hz and hang on to your grin muscles.

Thomas

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Re: Check out this woofer [message #48655 is a reply to message #48649]

Sun, 22 January 2006 21:43

Wayne Parham
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Registered: January 2001

Illuminati (33rd Degree)

If you get one of 'em, let us know how it sounds.

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Re: Check out this woofer [message #48670 is a reply to message #48653]

Mon, 23 January 2006 18:41

Bill Epstein
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Registered: May 2009
Location: Smoky Mts. USA

Illuminati (2nd Degree)

It appears to my untrained eye that the HM has less trouble reaching for 1500 Hz. If so, maybe giving up a little low end grunt and getting a smaller box would be worth it.

PA specs

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Re: Check out this woofer [message #48686 is a reply to message #48670]

Tue, 24 January 2006 21:37

ToFo
Messages: 219
Registered: May 2009

Master

I hope I am looking at the same graphs (296-630.pdf & 296-632.pdf respectively). They looked like the same driver to me at first. This is bugging me now. Anyway, I must confess that I wasn't paying attention above 1K (BIG HF horn & deeper driver coming soon). They both looked great to me.

As for the bass; on further inspection the 15PA is only +2 or 3dB from 30 to 40, which is not exactly huge. They can both be tuned to play solid to 30-something in most domestic sized rooms, & that is pretty cool. It seems we both like the other driver for the same reason, box size. I like the sound of a big cabinet. I do not know why, but box size seems to be a big deal in my room. That and a bit more in the mid thirties will put me over the edge when I take my musical taste into account.

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Re: Quite right [message #48687 is a reply to message #48686]

Wed, 25 January 2006 05:32

Bill Epstein
Messages: 1088
Registered: May 2009
Location: Smoky Mts. USA

Illuminati (2nd Degree)

W/O being able to overlay the 2 graphs it's really hard to tell the difference.
I'm also looking at the B&C woofers Earl Geddes uses. Look how close the specs track the 2226.
There's so much more available to us today than just JBL and Eminence. Cool!

B&C 15" Woofer

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Re: Check out this woofer [message #48780 is a reply to message #48649]

Thu, 02 February 2006 14:49

Anonymous

If you like that type of driver, then you should look into this
one. The new person who makes them I believe can make those for
a lower price than the usher if you buy a pair ... and I'd bet my
paycheck the Usher would get beat pretty bad by it.

http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/lambda/TD15M.html

email for details if you want to know the skinny.

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