System Grounding Tweak [message #4717] |
Sat, 16 February 2008 21:07 ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
FredT
Messages: 704 Registered: May 2009
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I hadn't really thought about it before today, but an audio system's grounding integrity depends on the quality of the connection of the breaker box to the ground rod that's placed near it. This became an issue for me on Valentine's day when I bought my wife a new LED TV that I connected to the cable TV converter box and to my system. The immediately audible result was a ground loop hum. Removing the coax input to the cable box stopped the hum, so I knew I had a problem with the cable ground versus the electrical system's ground. A quick internet search revealed that the first and easiest fix is to connect the cable ground and the electrical system ground to the same ground rod. When I checked this out I realized they already are connected to the same ground rod, which should make a ground loop nearly impossible UNLESS THE CONNECTIONS ARE CORRODED! What do you know, the house is about ten years old, and the outside copper leads from both the breaker box and the cable TV are severely corroded where they connect to the ground rod. Pulling them and cleaning everything eliminated the hum. So even if you haven't gone to the dark side and placed an LCD TV between your speakers it might be a good idea to check your electrical system's ground and clean it if it's corroded.
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Re: System Grounding Tweak [message #4719 is a reply to message #4717] |
Sat, 16 February 2008 23:23 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
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Wayne Parham
Messages: 18758 Registered: January 2001
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You're right, Fred. Sometimes the little ground rod that connects the phone panel and cable box up to is not all that great. Mine is decent, inserted fairly deep into the earth, but I've seen some that were practically just laying on the ground.Grounding is a big deal, especially when you connect things that are far apart. In this case, the cable distribution point is far from you and there is resistance between you and them. Even if you ground very well at the point of entry, there can still be current on the ground line because of the distance between you and the distribution point. This makes it possible (probable) that there is a difference in potential between your local ground and ground at the source. That causes a ground loop too. For this reason, I generally find it good to isolate the grounds with a transformer, so cable ground is not connected to the ground on my system. That way cable ground is provided at their point of contact and mine is lifted, floating wherever it rests. The transformer couples the signal, and that's all I want from the cable line. Another thing that can cause fits is there are usually two different power circuits within your home. They come from two sides of a 220v feed. If you have some devices connected to one circuit and other devices on the other circuit, you'll get hum when you connect the two. Usually, wall sockets in a room are all on one circuit but not always.
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