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Crossovers [message #45447] Sat, 25 September 2004 10:48 Go to next message
LAL is currently offline  LAL
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Wayne,

I assume you think the standard crossover does the job, but I wonder if you couldn't provide an alternate version or upgrade with higher grade components which would produce a superior result. Would a hand wired point to point crossover be superior to one made on a PCB? Is it a question of bang for the buck or do you think your standard supplied crossover would be hard to improve on? I ask this being largely ignorant of crossover design and should point out that I am very pleased with 4Pi Stage speakers, but was just wondering if point to point wiring or high end components might improve the sound in any worthwhile way.

Larry

Re: Crossovers [message #45448 is a reply to message #45447] Sat, 25 September 2004 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Lots of people have built their own crossovers, and the circuit is simple enough it's pretty easy to build. For the money, the one we provide is hard to beat. But you can certainly build your own and hand-pick your favorite components.


Re: Crossovers [message #45449 is a reply to message #45448] Sat, 25 September 2004 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Wayne If I may offer this bit of experience to Larry, I tried both the etched board and hardwire on the Theater 4's and even trying hard to hear a difference could hear none. I used to espouse the hardwire theory over PC's but lately with speaker xovers and amps I really have come around to the PC camp, they are very accurate well isolated and easily replicated; and from one who would like to prove that hard wire sounds better, to be honest I can't. I am aware of stray capacitances and RFI issues but I personally don't hear any advantage to hardwire. As far as the Pi pre-built I tried biamping with Audion 2-way xover but went back to the Pi xover because it just sounded better. Hope this helps, J.R. (The Audion is a well designed xover using discrete components throughout)

Re: Crossovers [message #45450 is a reply to message #45448] Sat, 25 September 2004 18:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Baron
Wayne,
I have no particular desire to try to build my own crossovers. I'll stick to cabinet construction and let those more knowledgeable than me do the crossovers. I was just curious if you have ever tried to use "audiophile" components as an alternative or an upgrade and if so, if you were able to produce a significant improvment albeit at a reasonable increase in expense. In other words is your crossover about as good as a crossover is going to get or could a noticeably better sounding crossover be made available as an upgrade at reasonable price increase? Again, I am not disatisfied, only curious if there is room to improve an already fine product.

Larry

Re: Crossovers [message #45451 is a reply to message #45449] Sat, 25 September 2004 18:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Baron
Thanks for sharing your experience

Re: Crossovers [message #45455 is a reply to message #45450] Sun, 26 September 2004 15:31 Go to previous message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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The crossovers supplied are pretty good. We use good components, polypropelene capacitors, large guage air-core coils and non-inductive resistors.


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