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KSN1038 Discontinued [message #45094] Wed, 28 July 2004 15:45 Go to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Some of you may have heard that the KSN1038 tweeter has been discontinued. We still have stock for one π, two π and two π tower speaker kits, but we are no longer selling the KSN1038 individually. We will sell the existing kits until they are gone.

I plan to find a replacement part and to continue production of one π, two π and two π tower speakers and kits. The prices will undoubtedly increase to reflect the inclusion of a different tweeter. The price increase may be as much as double.

I'm considering several options right now. Two that seem particularly attractive are the Vifa DX25 and the Eminence APT80. Each has its particular benefits, and it's a pretty tough decision. I also haven't ruled out other options. Honestly, I wish CTS hadn't discontinued the existing tweeter because it has been an inexpensive, attractive, reliable and stable part. But we'll make sure that the added cost of the tweeters make the new kits worth their price.

Re: KSN1038 Discontinued [message #45095 is a reply to message #45094] Wed, 28 July 2004 16:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris R is currently offline  Chris R
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Hi Wayne,

Maybe we didn't buy enough of them to keep production going. Bummer.
Before you decide on a permanent replacement, what would you think
about prototyping the cross-overs and having as many 2 Pi owners as
possible do the conversion, listen, then vote. This would be at
their own expense. I've been very curious about the APT's for
a while. Any idea if there are differences between the different
horns on the different models?
Chris

Re: KSN1038 Discontinued [message #45096 is a reply to message #45095] Wed, 28 July 2004 17:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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I'm not sure what prompted CTS to stop production but I doubt it was lack of volume.

As for other devices, there are already many people that have used each of these tweeters. There are several good ones, and it seems like peoples' preferences are about equally divided. All the good ones are attractive in one way or another.

Re: KSN1038 Discontinued [message #45102 is a reply to message #45096] Thu, 29 July 2004 04:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Adrian Mack is currently offline  Adrian Mack
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Maybe CTS has another piezo which would work? I remember reading through older posts awhile ago that there were another couple of CTS models that you liked.

The APT80 needs a horn flare I'm pretty sure, more $$$ :-( Sorry to hear it Wayne!

Re: APT80 [message #45104 is a reply to message #45102] Thu, 29 July 2004 08:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James W. Johnson is currently offline  James W. Johnson
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Actually the APT80 is a just an APT50 with an 80 degree conical horn built onto it.

Its only a few bucks more.

The APT-150 and APT-200 are also the APT50 with different horns.


Personally I hope this is the route Wayne takes because so far some of my most impressive projects were based with Eminence made drivers.
Adire Tempests and Shivas, Adire AV8 midwoofer and now my Stage 4 Pis.

I dont want to see Wayne go with a standard dome tweeter though because everybody else and there brother is already using these in the DIY community.



Re: KSN1038 Discontinued [message #45105 is a reply to message #45102] Thu, 29 July 2004 08:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James W. Johnson is currently offline  James W. Johnson
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Maybe CTS has another piezo which would work? I remember reading through older posts awhile ago that there were another couple of CTS models that you liked.
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Id like to know what those other models are as well if they are direct drop ins for the One and Two Pis.


Re: drop in replacements? [message #45107 is a reply to message #45094] Thu, 29 July 2004 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James W. Johnson is currently offline  James W. Johnson
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Wayne,
So are the following CTS drivers basically the same.. 1038,1041,1056 ?

Are there any other drop in replacements for the One and Two Pis?

What are the Best CTS drivers ever made? [message #45108 is a reply to message #45094] Thu, 29 July 2004 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James W. Johnson is currently offline  James W. Johnson
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I think I want to stock up on these just in case I want to experiment with these down the road. Could you guys give me a list of the best CTS drivers?

I know Wayne likes the KSN 1038/1041/1056 ..what are some others?

APT80 [message #45109 is a reply to message #45102] Thu, 29 July 2004 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GarMan is currently offline  GarMan
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I personally like the results a lot that I've got from the APT80. In terms of cost for the drivers alone, it not that much more. However, add the cost of a high quality crossover to that and like Wayne said, you're doubling the cost of the existing PI 1 and 2 kits.

Gar.

Now the One and Two Pis will become legendary.... [message #45110 is a reply to message #45094] Thu, 29 July 2004 08:27 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
James W. Johnson is currently offline  James W. Johnson
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I can already see it....KSN-1038s going for $100 each on Ebay because people want what is harder to get.

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