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Re: Before you add a super tweeter [message #42046 is a reply to message #42042] |
Mon, 28 July 2003 15:19 |
AstroSonic
Messages: 58 Registered: May 2009
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Hi, There are drivers and add-on super tweeters that will provide more HF extension. However, the stock driver is capable of providing quite remarkable performance. Unless you have done some of the following you are likely to be rather disappointed in an add-on. 1) solder all internal connections. 2) replace the high pass caps (stock mylars) with film types (like Solens). 3) consider upgrading your speaker wires (external and internal) and interconnects. 4) consider upgrading your source. Items 1 and 2 are relatively inexpensive and can yield substantial gains in extension and resolution, provided that the speakers are receiving a good signal (hence items 3 and 4). A friend of mine has a pair of stock 4 Pi's and you can easily hear improvements in amplification, cabling and source. Whatever you do here-no great harm. Have fun and enjoy the music. AstroSonic
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Re: Solen Caps [message #42053 is a reply to message #42049] |
Mon, 28 July 2003 22:45 |
AstroSonic
Messages: 58 Registered: May 2009
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Kelly, I used the Solens as an example of the type (film caps) not as THE recommended cap. However, they perform quite well for the money and are a good way to start on the diy upgrade path. Much of what is discussed here IS a matter of personal taste. I am not sure what application you have used the Solens in, but the stock mylars in the Pi 4 crossovers are not as resolving or extended as film caps, including the Solens. The Solens also do not generally sound harsh and 'cruchy' unless the signal contains that sound character. That is a problem frequently encountered when upgrading mid or 'downstream' in the system. With upgrades to the speakers you often hear problems originating in the amplifier or source. I have heard that you can have too many film caps in the signal path and too much silver interconnect (the sound becomes overly analytical or worse), but I have not been burdened with that experience. System voicing can get pretty involved and expensive. In any case, items 1 and 2 are quite inexpensive as system upgrades go, and certainly less expensive and involved than a super tweeter that at least matches the quality of the Eminence driver in the 4 Pi's. So I suggest that he try a few inexpensive tweeks before spending a bundle on a horn or ribbon tweeter. If, in his opinion, the sound is improved, then he is ahead for very low cost. Trying an inexpensive super tweeter like a piezo or the Radio Shack pod tweeter could also yield some improvement. With respect to your experience with Solens, how were they being used (power supply, coupling, crossover, etc.)? What did you bypass them with that improved the sound? Regards, AstroSonic
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Re: Theater 4 Pi with addition super tweeter [message #42057 is a reply to message #42042] |
Tue, 29 July 2003 16:04 |
Zeno
Messages: 122 Registered: May 2009
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i like the psd 2002 as well, their prices are really good, some friends drop by to listen to my Pi 4 with my 1.5 watts amp they can't believe the bass they hear from my Pi 4 and the mid are really good as well but seemed to them that the Pi 4 are lack of high, generally it is enough for me. anyway the Pi 4 is the best speaker i had so far, i used to have speaker that cost USD 3000.00. and the cost of building my Pi 4 is only USD 600.00 with all those Zen & auri with bypass cap in the cross over. i believe it is a matter of personal taste like you guy say and i will try doing something about the connection and the wireing changing the compression driver is killing for the time being. thanks. Zeno
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