Spring forward... [message #40876] |
Sun, 06 April 2003 03:41 |
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Wayne Parham
Messages: 18831 Registered: January 2001
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Everybody set your clocks last night? "Spring forward, fall back." That saying always reminds me of the message on the ELO album "Face the Music" - The one that was recorded backwards: "The music is reversible. Turn back, turn back, turn back." Remember that?I've been spending a lot of time with the Paramours. I gotta say that the thing I'm impressed with most is how loud they get. I know that's not the main thing, but really - it sounds like 100 watts or something. Clean. I can think of so many guitar players talking about "tube watts being more than transistor watts." I remember always thinking that tubes just acted differently when they entered clipping, and I still think that is the reason for that belief. But whatever - I can watch movies having the soundtrack piped through the Paramours with such huge impact that I absolutely don't feel that they need more power at all, not even in the bass. Big sound, huge dynamics, and thunderous bass. Just huge! Those of you that can simply must try the π / Paramour combination. It's really great. Take away all the tone controls, bass boost or anything else like that. Just run it pure, a single 2A3 tube and nothing more. Thunderous bass, stunning range and huge dynamics. Now I'm using all those subjective terms I sometimes found inadequate. If I start talking about "liquid midrange" or "pinpoint imaging" I'll know I've gone too far and become intoxicated. Then again, maybe I'm already there. I can't help but to use terms like "thunderous" and "stunning." And when you consider that I'm used to running hundreds of watts to the same speakers - When I say that the dynamics are huge, I'm not kidding you. When you get 'em up to full volume - not clipping level, mind you - but clean full volume is a level where nobody in the room can talk to each other because it's just too loud.
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Re: Spring forward... [message #40877 is a reply to message #40876] |
Sun, 06 April 2003 04:57 |
spkrman57
Messages: 522 Registered: May 2009
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Wayne, I have to put my plug for the 4 Pi-pro model here even though we have been there before. First, you can't put a SET amp on a pair of JBL 2226's that have not been broken in on some high wattage solid waste amps. I have been breaking in my 2226's for around 2 years now, and still find them breaking in further all the time. I started with 250 watts/chnl for the first 6 months, then I have Dynaco ST-70 which is good performer on the 2226's, and of course my Marantz 22xx series of receivers. I have had success with my 2226J's (16 ohm) on Paramours (3 different ones) and Moth S45 amps. All of these were set up for the 8 ohm tap. I did not feel the lack of BASS that some have mentioned. I know the impedance seems to be wrong, and on my SCA-35/ST-70, will not work with wrong impeadance, but the SET's did work well that way. There are those who have heard (they brought their own amps to my house), and they believe. Glad to hear you like the "Flea-power" amps, "The first watt is the most important one" Cheers, Ron
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Have you tried a 6550 amp yet? [message #40882 is a reply to message #40876] |
Sun, 06 April 2003 11:02 |
Scholl
Messages: 67 Registered: May 2009
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Do it asap! I'm not bullshiting! IT will save a lot of time and effort. The Paramour is a great amp but the 2226H really likes a push pull 6550 the best, maybe a 8417 amp, I won't go there. I've run the following amps: SE: The Noreaster 572-10 with 811-10 and -3 variations 6b4G 5881 EL34 6550 6L6GC Sorry no 300Bs but the Noreaster will most likely be refit with 300Bs when the 572-10s go bad. All with various iron and designs some mine some other folks. Push pull: HEath aa-151 stock and moded Many different Fisher and Scott integrateds and recievers Eico HF20s stock Push Pull 6B4G with Scott iron and Eico HF20 iron Interstage and LTP phase splitters. Dynaco ST70 HK Citation 2 Bogen MO200s stock and modded with EL34s Bogen KO100s Stock and with minor power supply mods A EL34 amp using Stancor iron and modified Mulard design to the "T" Sansui Q50s (A great amp pair if you can find them) Mac 40s 6C45s on a Seares chassis. Again some of the amps were\are mine some other folks. Solid state: several classic Kenwoods KA601s, KA6100, KA7100 An NAD integrated Sorry not much solid state comes into my house. You get the point 7 years of all kinds of tube amps in many topologies in several rooms at several houses. Just borrow a push pull 6550 amp from someone and stop pussy-footing around. You'll be shopping for one the next day. The 2226H just seems to click with these tubes, great synergy.
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6550 Push-pull tube amps [message #40892 is a reply to message #40888] |
Mon, 07 April 2003 04:47 |
Scholl
Messages: 67 Registered: May 2009
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This is very spacific although I'd bet KT88s would work as well or better. Small amps and SE amps do well but 6550s bring out the most from 2226Hs. Try it you'll like it.
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Made my day! [message #40899 is a reply to message #40876] |
Mon, 07 April 2003 18:57 |
Paul Joppa
Messages: 2 Registered: May 2009
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Thanks for the enthusiasm, Wayne! I check this forum only occasionally, maybe once a month or so just to stay in touch with what's going on. I come by today, and here's this great post about my baby - it sure made my day! (For those who don't know, I did the electronic design of the Paramour for Bottlehead.) Thanks.
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Hoo Boy! ...Have you got some fun in store for you! [message #40908 is a reply to message #40901] |
Tue, 08 April 2003 09:06 |
Garland
Messages: 269 Registered: May 2009
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Wayne, The Paramours' circuit is so clean and simple that any change to them is readily apparent, especially through high efficiency loudspeakers! Peruse the archives on the Bottlehead Forum and see all the things that folks have done to/with these big/little amps. Have fun at Lima! Hope I can make it some year! Garland
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