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Re: Anybody want to hear about Ella? [message #40236 is a reply to message #40230] Sun, 09 February 2003 04:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wasteh202 is currently offline  wasteh202
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Thanks for the write up. I have noticed from scaning the SET & Tube DIY boards that many prefer a powerful EL34 amp to many other tube amps and SET's. I talked with Bruce Edgar last week and he prefers them for his horn speakers systems that range from about 99db to 107db. He will tell you that the extra power will definaty make a difference especially when playing complex pieces of music.
Re: Anybody want to hear about Ella? [message #40237 is a reply to message #40230] Sun, 09 February 2003 04:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wasteh202 is currently offline  wasteh202
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BTW... do you prefer the Ella to the Paramours? Maybe I missed something but I could not quite tell buy your review, thanks
Tube burn in on Ella! [message #40239 is a reply to message #40222] Sun, 09 February 2003 04:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
spkrman57
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Bill,
How's your plumbing holding up??? Anyways, I have to add as additional comment, those "National" brand tubes in my ST-70 are less than 40 hours also, so they are still a little brittle yet, don't have the money for better EL34's yet, just got my Dynaco SCA-35 back from tech(same one who did the ST-70), he is very meticoulus, cleans everything up including the PCB's which almost look new. Guess what, the 35 has much more midrange/high frequency clarity than the 70 does, and definitely does not have the bottom end "OOMPH" of its big brother on the cloned 4 pi-pro's. I sent my McIntosh MC-240 to fix up now, that will be the amp for the 4 pi-pro's, nothing like 40 watts of 6L6's pounding the JBL 2226's. Really glad to hear Ella is up and running, you were like an "expectant father to be" during this assembly process, I am really happy for you!!!!
Now "Grasshopper", did you get the crossovers put together for your speakers like we discussed, letting the Altec's on 811B horns come through better at 800hz should improve the voicing of your midranges that tubes love. Keep in touch, and by the way, I still believe tubes and speakers properly broke in and aged with care will only get better. I brought out my Adcom 555-II yesterday just to move the 2226's a little bit, my tube amps don't push the JBL's very hard in home use.
Regards, Ron (Hey, Where is Marvin the Martian at in the pics?)
Re: Anybody want to hear about Ella? [message #40245 is a reply to message #40230] Sun, 09 February 2003 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mikebake is currently offline  mikebake
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I still contend that if a given product sounds good on some source CD's and not as good on others, it's still the CD and not the gear. The "shrill/glassy/digital" that isn't there all the time, isn't there all the time because of the recording, not the amp. Or so I believe.
Re: Anybody want to hear about Ella? [message #40250 is a reply to message #40245] Mon, 10 February 2003 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Crazy Dave is currently offline  Crazy Dave
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"Shrill/glassy/digital" sounds like bad CD (most of them) to me. I do have some good sounding CD's but not that many. I usually evaluate equipment with records where I have many great recordings.

By the way, the CD layers of the new Rolling Stones SACD's are very good. You don't have to have a SCAD to enjoy them and I have the original Londons to compare.

Dave

Chiming in on the digitalitis... [message #40251 is a reply to message #40230] Mon, 10 February 2003 09:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Garland is currently offline  Garland
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rly live. As the quality of our system improves the quality of the reproduced music often declines!!! I'm often now at the point where I only can listen to a handfull of CDs since everything else sounds flawed. But, my god!, how damn good those few do sound!

G.

Re: Chiming in on the digitalitis... [message #40264 is a reply to message #40251] Tue, 11 February 2003 18:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bmar is currently offline  bmar
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I agree completely
Sorry, just noticed that the bulk of my message was deleted somehow!? [message #40269 is a reply to message #40251] Wed, 12 February 2003 04:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Garland is currently offline  Garland
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... but the conclusion is all that really matters, I guess.

g.

Re: Anybody want to hear about Ella? [message #40281 is a reply to message #40222] Thu, 13 February 2003 14:14 Go to previous message
JLM is currently offline  JLM
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Please, please keep us informed as she warms up to you.

As others here have mentioned, speakers really want to be bullied around (they NEED a big amp) to sound their best IMO.

Glad to hear that Wayne likes the people behind the amp.

I've been eyeing that amp, but have 9 thumbs and don't want to screw up when the manufacturer is 10,000 miles away.

Does anyone offer to assemble Ella's?

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