Help picking right speaker [message #39951] |
Sat, 18 January 2003 23:22 ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
crazy thunder
Messages: 3 Registered: May 2009
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Hi All, My listening room is 36'x24' rectangle with a barrel arch ceiling that starts at 10' at the walls and peaks at 16'. The walls are lathe and plaster, and the floors are hardwood. I have a HK Citation II I will be using to power my speakers. I have sansui sp-8000's in the room right now, they make plenty of sound but I am dissatisfied with them. I have been considering a pair of Klipschorns, as I have a pair of heresys that I'm fond of. I have 2 problems: 1. Khorns are expensive, and very difficult to ship. I doubt if I will ever find a pair anywhere close to southeastern Idaho. 2. The corners are mighty far apart, which might make for poor imaging. For this reason I am considering something like the Cornwalls or LaScala's, which don't have to be placed in the corner. Those speakers are also difficult to ship. I'm intrigued by the offerings in the Pi line. Will a cornerhorn work well in my room? If not, which pi speaker is recommended? Thanks!
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Re: easy [message #39967 is a reply to message #39951] |
Mon, 20 January 2003 16:54 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
bmar
Messages: 346 Registered: May 2009
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If I had a room the size of yours. There is no doubt in my mind I would get 10 Pi's. Bill
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10 Pi freq response [message #39968 is a reply to message #39951] |
Mon, 20 January 2003 18:02 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
crazy thunder
Messages: 3 Registered: May 2009
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Thanks for the advice so far. It sounds as if the 10 Pi is a good candidate for my room. I want the dynamics and the lively sound that a horn loaded speaker can provide. Given the size of the 10 Pi, I was suprised to see that the frequency response only goes down to 40 hz. Is this just the manufacturer being modest? One of my top criteria for a speaker is that I want it to go at least to 30 hz. I really don't want to add a sub if I can help it. Thanks again!
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10Pi with Theater parts? [message #39970 is a reply to message #39969] |
Mon, 20 January 2003 19:10 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
crazy thunder
Messages: 3 Registered: May 2009
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Pipe organs happen to be one of my favorites... I love rattling the house with some Bach. That room just begs for pipe organs. Are there plans available for the 10Pi with the Theater parts? thanks, Jed
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10Pi with Theater parts - No Go [message #39980 is a reply to message #39976] |
Tue, 21 January 2003 12:35 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
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Wayne Parham
Messages: 18757 Registered: January 2001
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When using different woofers, one should expect to use a different motor chamber. Often times, a different horn should be used too. Also, some drivers don't do so well in horn enclosures. If a woofer or midwoofer has very low Q, for example, I would expect it to work poorly at the lowest frequencies in a bass-reflex or sealed cabinet but do well in a horn. And if it has very high Q, I would expect it to work poorly in a horn, but do well as a direct radiator on a baffle or very large box. I really like the JBL 2226 in the ten π horn. It extends its low frequency limit because of its behavior at the flare frequency. And it allows the driver to be used much higher than other folded horn designs, acting similarly to a straight horn in many respects. I would expect other similar drivers to work well in this cabinet, but there are also some that probably wouldn't work so well. As long as Vas and Qts are reasonably close, you'll probably be fine. But the Delta 15 used in the Theater Series four and seven π should not be used in the ten π in my opinion. They sound great in a π cornerhorn and they work well in a bass-reflex box. But I don't like them in a folded horn - With a Qts of 0.5, they're just too boomy in a ten π. This isn't an issue in the π cornerhorn, because it acts like an infinite horn, so that's a nice solution instead.
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