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1" x 2" Braces [message #38520] Tue, 01 October 2002 16:12 Go to next message
Fresno is currently offline  Fresno
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Are the 1" x 2" braces really supposed to be 1 x 2 or are they supposed to be the precut 1 x 2's that aren't really 1 x 2?
Re: 1" x 2" Braces [message #38521 is a reply to message #38520] Tue, 01 October 2002 16:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BillEpstein is currently offline  BillEpstein
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You've discovered that 1X2 means 3/4X1 1/2.
I'm not so sure that 1X2 is sufficient and would use 1X4: 3/4X3 1/2.
More is better.

Re: 1" x 2" Braces [message #38523 is a reply to message #38521] Tue, 01 October 2002 16:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fresno is currently offline  Fresno
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The braces are for the 2pi towers. I am unsure of how to proceed since I think the box needs to have a specific volume of air. The size of the braces will affect the volume of air. So I need to know which Wayne intended.
Re: 1" x 2" Braces [message #38526 is a reply to message #38523] Tue, 01 October 2002 20:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RJW is currently offline  RJW
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I would think mill size, 3/4 x 1 1/2. I think he would mention ripping full dimention if not.
Ron
Re: 1" x 2" Braces [message #38528 is a reply to message #38526] Tue, 01 October 2002 20:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently online  Wayne Parham
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We use the wood stock labeled 1 x 2, but Bill is right, "more is better." You can't ever overbrace.

Volume is displaced by the braces, but the difference between 10 linear feet of 1" x 2" stock and the same length of 3/4" x 1 1/2" stock is only 100 cubic inches. That's a very small percentage of the 9000+ cubic inches displacement of the tower two π loudspeaker cabinet.

So brace well; Don't fill the cabinet up with braces, but don't be concerned by fractional differences either. You'll find that the tolerances are wide enough that bracing volume is insignificant.

Thanks! (nt) [message #38531 is a reply to message #38528] Wed, 02 October 2002 05:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bracing according to JBL [message #38532 is a reply to message #38531] Wed, 02 October 2002 05:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LuxmanLover is currently offline  LuxmanLover
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In JBL's enclosure manual they state that if thick insulation such as 3 1/2-6" fiberglas is used to damp the enclosure (which is the care with the model your building I assume) they claim that it adds virtual volume and to disregard any bracing used if that is the case.
Kelly
Virtual Volume! [message #38534 is a reply to message #38532] Wed, 02 October 2002 06:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fresno is currently offline  Fresno
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How much virtual volume does it add?

When I went from 5/8" MDF to 3/4" MDF I had to enlarge the port size slightly. Is there any impact to the port size with this additional virtual volume? Or is that already in the calculations that Wayne used to determine the port size?

Perhaps I am agonizing over what may be trivial in reality, but I don't have enough knowledge to distiguish mountains from molehills.

Don't worry about it [message #38535 is a reply to message #38534] Wed, 02 October 2002 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JLapaire is currently offline  JLapaire
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It's too small an amount to worry about. If you were to plug your numbers into Wayne's PiAlign software or WinISD you could see what I mean. Mountains out of molehills.

Good Luck!

John

JBL Enclorure Guide Link [message #38541 is a reply to message #38534] Wed, 02 October 2002 10:14 Go to previous message
LuxmanLover is currently offline  LuxmanLover
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There is tons of info on JBL's site ...should keep you busy for awhile.

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