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Reverse Horn ? [message #37495] Thu, 25 July 2002 14:34 Go to next message
Anonymous
The question of the day is.. Lets compare two scenarios
and perhaps you can tell me what is going on.

Scenario one. You have an 8" midbass driver in a box
crossed over from 70hz to 500hz.

Scenario two. You desire to replace that 8" inch driver with a
12" midbass driver but don't have the space on the front baffle of
the box because there is only 8" width available, so you compromise
a little bit and you recess the 12" midbass ~6" to 12" inside the box
and taper the wall so the energy squirts out of the 8" opening on
the front baffle.

Questions are;

How much senstivity will you lose, isn't this sorta like a reverse
horn effect sensitivity-wise?

How much more "punch" in the music do you gain, if any, vs. the 8"
driver?

Re: Reverse Horn ? [message #37497 is a reply to message #37495] Thu, 25 July 2002 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As long as you maintained the crossectional area, the design you are describing would almost be a transmission line listening from the end of the line.. I'm not completely sure what the effects would be, you'd probably have resonances within the chamber... Umm other then that I'm not completely sure what the effects would be. I'd say some beaming at higher frequencies, again depending on the design

You wouldn't really gain anything going from an 8" to a 12" midbass in this application. It won't necessarily sound any better, although the 12" would have more output capability because of the increased cone area and likely excursion as well. Still, a good 8" midbass, in the right box crossed at 70-80 Hz should be able to hit 105-110 db without overexerting, so it depends on your design goals...

Why do you want to switch? Maybe you could use two 8's?

Adam

Re: Reverse Horn ? [message #37505 is a reply to message #37497] Thu, 25 July 2002 19:40 Go to previous message
Anonymous
Well, I did some crude tests with a 10" eminence beta 10.
Putting this woofer in a box, then placing *it* inside another
box that was about 3x longer to simulate the recessed part seemed
to give me louder bass, more directional since it was shooting out
the big box, similar to a horn loaded box but with no expansion horn.
hehehe

Placing a board to cover the opening (at a 45 degree angle)
about 1/3 to 1/2 just seemed to suppress the SPL and alter the
freq slightly. Appears that I choked the bass output - haha
*BUT* it was still louder and more punchy than just having
the box sit there in open space.

Hornloading does rule, too bad I don't have the room to make
what I really want to make. There is no magic bullet.

For now, I will stick with my traditional design, perhaps someday
make a horn loaded system. hahaha

I do like the chest pounding midbass from concerts.

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