Folded horn subs--yuck! [message #35976] |
Mon, 15 April 2002 13:02 |
Mike
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I've heard that folded horn subs don't really sound like much unless 1- you crank 'em, and 2- you're at least 30 ft. from them. I find them to be muddy (80 Hz xover) with rotten transients. Surface-mount sub speakers are a huge improvement to my ear. Any other views? Thanks! Mike
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Re: Folded horn subs--yuck! [message #35980 is a reply to message #35976] |
Mon, 15 April 2002 15:15 |
Adam
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Folded horn *subs*? Good luck finding those. A true horn loaded subwoofer would have a flare frequency at 30 Hz or below, and that would mean a long horn path and large mouth area to boot. The reason what you heard doesn't sound like subs is because they aren't subs. They are gigantic midbass bins, designed for huge output at 50 Hz and above, and little below that. Probably why you think so many of them suck is because a lot are severely undersized. I've seen 'bass bins' which are supposedly 40 Hz cut, using a pair of 18" JBL's that were small enough to fit in the trunk of a medium-sized sedan. Not happening. A true 30 Hz horn would be the size of a couple of large refridgerators, Let alone a 20 Hz horn. Adam
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Re: Folded horn subs--yuck! [message #35983 is a reply to message #35976] |
Mon, 15 April 2002 17:33 |
freddyi
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hey Mike typical 8-12 cu.ft. W basshorn may have 80Hz flare and ~100Hz mouth - not so good for low bass - especially away from corner - of course Bruce Edgar makes very good horns for bass - also , I'm partial to Karlson or modified Karlson for 36Hz and up Freddy
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Re: Folded horn subs--yuck! [message #35998 is a reply to message #35976] |
Wed, 17 April 2002 04:12 |
Mike
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Thanks, people, your comments greatly appreciated. The speakers that really turned me off are EV Eliminator 18" folded cabs. Anybody have experience with them? Thanks again :)
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