Port air speed. [message #35802] |
Thu, 04 April 2002 11:34 |
dbeardsl
Messages: 127 Registered: May 2009
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Has anybody ever done some calculations on port air speed for some of the Pi Models? I just put the specs into a program called WinISD (a lot like boxplot). I gave me a Mach of .34 for Theater series Four Pi. I have some large 3 ways which I just dropped the JBL M252-8B into. the port on this is rated at mach .24 and 32hz. When I play any kind of sine wave below 50 hz or so, the port is hideously wooshy, you can't hear it that much in normal music, though it's rather loud on some R&B. The other PI models, like you said, are smaller cabinets with bigger ports, so it's not really an issue. Has anybody tried a different port configuration, but with the same tuning?
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we don't need no stinking subject. [message #35810 is a reply to message #35805] |
Thu, 04 April 2002 23:07 |
dbeardsl
Messages: 127 Registered: May 2009
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Thanks Wayne. Cool, I believe ya, makes sense, as long as I'm not feeding it a big sine wave at box resonance, air speed should be fine. I was just suprised my the amount of huffing when I played the M252's at real low in a box tuned to 32hz. Anyway, those M252's sound pretty good, not quite as quick (read punchy) as the EV 15TRXB's they replaced (the M252's have a heavier cone and stiffer suspension), but a few Db more efficient and can take a heck of a lot more punishment. Question, How does one filter out all below resonance information? would I have to get an active crossover? or would I have to make a real steep passive filter. Thanks, Danny
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fanning air vs. imparting a compression wave [message #35821 is a reply to message #35810] |
Fri, 05 April 2002 10:05 |
Sam P.
Messages: 307 Registered: May 2009
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is why they sound like "huffing" way low. Air is wooshing around, but not being "excited"...it is moving instead of carrying the sound. As you said, just watch it with the sine waves. Even the jbl4648a-8 will "chuff" at resonance (40Hz) with only 2.83 vRMS/1 watt input. Each woofer is only being driven by 1/2 watt! SPL was only 86dB, but glass knickknacks were hopping up and down across the room. At their rated power input of 1200 watts, those voice coils would be embedded in the wall 22. ft. away!!! Trying to actively filter the LF below 20Hz. is not an issue with music in a home setting. If your preamp has a passive filter, and it does not impair the sonics, use it. For instance, my low filter cuts -5dB@20Hz, 6dB/octave. Helps when playing vinyl to reduce subsonic crap too. Supposed to be unobtrusive, I usually hear no difference, but leave it "off" except w/ warped vinyl...woofer cones would slowly move in and out...goes away w/ the 20Hz. filter engaged. Sam
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