Cornerhorns [message #34111] |
Wed, 31 October 2001 03:43 |
Frode
Messages: 49 Registered: May 2009
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Hi Wayne! You have said that the response for my Four Pi 2226H are down 6dB at approx. 50Hz. Where is the -6dB point for the Seven Pi cornerhorn?Today I've made a "footprint model" of the Seven Pi Pro, and I do have room for them. However, after my experiments with the Four Pi in the corners, I'm not sure that I will like the imaging of the cornerhorns. By imaging I mean that it the instruments/voices comes from different spots in front of you. My room is L-shaped, and my listening position is not exactly in the middle of the two corners I intend to use. Is it a good solution to use the Seven Pi as a "sub" up to maybe 60-80Hz(?), combined with a One, Two or Three Pi (maybe a standmounted coax)? TIA Frode
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Re: Cornerhorns [message #34113 is a reply to message #34112] |
Wed, 31 October 2001 06:26 |
Frode
Messages: 49 Registered: May 2009
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Thanks Wayne! I'm sure cornerhorns will give me plenty of bass, but you didn't answer my last question. Is it possible use the cornerhorn as a "sub" with two "satelites" where I normally have my speakers? If so, how high would you recommend to use the 2226H? How well does the One, Two and Three Pi perform from this XO point and up, compared to my Four Pi? TIA Frode PS! Please mail me the Seven Pi plans!
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Re: Cornerhorns [message #34114 is a reply to message #34113] |
Wed, 31 October 2001 16:40 |
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Wayne Parham
Messages: 18784 Registered: January 2001
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I suppose you could do that, but I've never been a fan of the idea of a single sub flanked by satellites. I wouldn't try to cover the whole bass range with a single woofer. Use at least two. The real benefit gained by the π cornerhorn arrangement is the uniformity of its pattern, its spectral balance throughout the room and the large "sweet spot" it provides. They have a natural tendency to balance the stereo image over a fairly wide area in the center of the room. This is due to their uniform directivity and their 45° toe-in, causing the forward axis to cross. All these things are lost when using a single π cornerhorn as a bass bin.
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Re: Cornerhorns [message #34115 is a reply to message #34111] |
Thu, 01 November 2001 09:46 |
Rider
Messages: 43 Registered: May 2009
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Hi Frode.I have the Pi7 Corner horns and I wouldn't use a corner horn as a sub if it's being used for a surround system. From what I know of surround sound the bass is not supposed to be directional. A rumble of a tank or herd of horses rumbles, but is supposed to give you the feeling you are IN the picture. One cornerhorn would be too identifiable for where the rumble was coming from. As per Waynes explanations the horn is the walls, ceiling, and floor with the corner horns. I expect with only one horn one side of the room would be loud and the other sort of void. Would this be true Wayne? Pi 7's make very serious amounts of bass / treble with absolutely no effort at all so from a technical point of view you would get a lot of sound. Listening to these speakers last night (not even at high volume) it came to mind that the bass was more like atmospheric pressure changing than listening to music. If you've ever heard them, you'll understand. Good luck with putting your system together. Grant Marshall.
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Re: Cornerhorns [message #34116 is a reply to message #34114] |
Thu, 01 November 2001 12:38 |
Frode
Messages: 49 Registered: May 2009
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Hi again! I've just finished moving my Four Pi around in my corners for testing. I did an experiment and pointed them into corners and the result was magic! The bass becomes much more full and natural, it even sounds deeper and more controlled. Forget the satelites - I can't wait to build my seven Pi's! Regards Frode
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