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I want more bass! [message #33916]

Wed, 26 September 2001 02:15

Frode
Messages: 49
Registered: May 2009

Baron

Hi Wayne!
I've tried your new compensation network in my 4Pi Pro. This made them sound even better(more "balanced"?). BUT, I would like to have more bass. I've tried to place the speakers in the corners. This gave me more bass, but I lost some of the other qualities I like. My room is to small for a 2242 sub, so I've thought of 3 possible solutions:

1. Build a 5 cu.ft box for my 2226.

2. Build 2 subs of ~2 cu.ft with drivers like the Peerless XLS

3. Build a single sub of ~5-6 cu.ft with a 15" driver
(haven't figured out which one yet)

Which solution do you think would be the best?

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Run TAD 1602's [message #33917 is a reply to message #33916]

Wed, 26 September 2001 04:20

Wayne Parham
Messages: 18796
Registered: January 2001

Illuminati (33rd Degree)

You might look at the TAD 1602. It isn't terribly expensive like their compression drivers are, and you could use them for a subwoofer.

Ft 21Hz
Vas 519L (18.3 cu ft)
Qts 0.21
Qms 2.78
Qes 0.23
Re 6.2 ohms
Le 0.9mH
Xmax 5mm (0.2")
Pe 300W
Sensitivity 97.5dB
BL 21
Impedance 8 ohms

Running PiAlign on this driver, we enter Vad=18.2, Frd=21 and Qd=5. It suggests a cabinet size of 3.66 cubic feet with a port of 3 1/2" x 6 3/16" and 4 13/16" long.

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Re: Run TAD 1602's [message #33924 is a reply to message #33917]

Wed, 26 September 2001 14:28

pickle
Messages: 24
Registered: May 2009

Chancellor

That's intriguing, but the TAD's look expensive. MSRP is $635 each, on their website. I don't know anything about them. How do they sound in comparison to JBL? Anybody carry them online that you know of?

TAD TL-1602

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Re: Run TAD 1602's [message #33927 is a reply to message #33924]

Wed, 26 September 2001 17:00

Wayne Parham
Messages: 18796
Registered: January 2001

Illuminati (33rd Degree)

MSRP is high, but "street cost" is more reasonable. You can get 1602's for $300 in good condition, about the same as JBL pro woofers.

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Re: Run TAD 1602's [message #33938 is a reply to message #33917]

Thu, 27 September 2001 05:16

Frode
Messages: 49
Registered: May 2009

Baron

Should I use the 2226's in a sealed box if I build a sub? Is two better than one?

TIA
Frode

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Re: Run TAD 1602's [message #33939 is a reply to message #33938]

Thu, 27 September 2001 05:34

Wayne Parham
Messages: 18796
Registered: January 2001

Illuminati (33rd Degree)

I'd leave the four Pi design as it is, and just subwoofers. The rolloff is smooth and gradual, and blends very nicely with subs.

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Re: Run TAD 1602's [message #33940 is a reply to message #33939]

Thu, 27 September 2001 06:14

Frode
Messages: 49
Registered: May 2009

Baron

Is it best to use one or two subs?

TIA
Frode

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Subwoofers [message #33941 is a reply to message #33940]

Thu, 27 September 2001 06:36

Wayne Parham
Messages: 18796
Registered: January 2001

Illuminati (33rd Degree)

The more subs the better, because it tends to smooth room modes. That's more an issue than anything else.

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I like the old JBL 2235h woofers [message #33944 is a reply to message #33916]

Thu, 27 September 2001 07:45

Magnetar
Messages: 1
Registered: May 2009

Esquire

for subs. They are discontinued but can be found used for around $125.00 - $150.00 each. For the money you'd spend on the TADs you could run 4 or more of these. They really go low. Running a couple pair will rock the whole neighborhood!

Magnetar

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