Stage monitors -- doubled Pi 4s? [message #33338] |
Thu, 10 May 2001 16:16 |
juanstein
Messages: 10 Registered: May 2009
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Hi Wayne -- I have been playing with Pialign and looking at speaker drivers available. I am partial to both the JBL 2226 and 2241 as far as price and various comments on this forum concerning linearity and distortion. Do you have any designs completed for 4 pi 15" professional stage monitors with two JBL 2226 drivers per cabinet? I would be using one JBL 2426 1" compression driver per cabinet. I have some cabinet solutions from Pialign for the bass cabinet above, but I would like to go to the master first (brown-nosing furiously, now :) Thanks! John
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Re: Stage monitors -- doubled Pi 4s? [message #33339 is a reply to message #33338] |
Thu, 10 May 2001 17:31 |
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Wayne Parham
Messages: 18787 Registered: January 2001
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The four Pi loudspeaker is designed to use a midwoofer and tweeter, and the crossover frequency and positions chosen were selected so that the directivity is matched at the crossover point. The woofer pattern begins to narrow from being almost omnidirectional to hemispherical to practically cone shaped, around 90 degrees in the crossover band. The tweeter also provides 90 degrees of horizontal coverage, so they're matched. Likewise, the vertical angle is matched because the vertical spacing of the woofer and tweeter makes a forward lobe form, with nulls above and below it. This modifies the woofer's natural cone shaped pattern, flattening it on top and bottom. This pattern is matched by the horn's vertical coverage angle, so above the crossover region a narrow coverage pattern is maintained. The design is pretty well optimized, not only by PiAlign for smooth bass response but also by having a crossover that matches the woofer and horn to achieve good off-axis response and ultimately, a uniform reverberent field. The dual woofer system you propoose is interesting though, in that it lets you retain all the benefits of DI matching and gain additinal benefits of adding bass sound sources. That's always a good thing. The way I would implement it is to keep the original physical relationships of midwoofer to tweeter, both in position and crossover, and add to that a second woofer below the first with a simple first-order crossover around 150Hz. This would provide two bass sound sources and would also allow the midwoofer to be higher, closer to ear level, without introducing a floor reflection cancellation notch in the midbass. The pair of woofers operarating together below 200Hz would reduce floor bounce and room modes, and crossover to the single midwoofer above the modal range would allow it to function as a point source up to the DI matching range, where crossover to the tweeter would be done as it is in the existing design.
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Re: Stage monitors -- doubled Pi 4s? [message #33342 is a reply to message #33339] |
Fri, 11 May 2001 11:29 |
juanstein
Messages: 10 Registered: May 2009
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Hi Wayne -- I thought that was more or less how I would want to build the animal. I haven't figured out the exact dimensions due to the port volume and driver volume. I am given basically a length and a surface area of the port face. Rather than the dimensions the program decides for the port area, would there be a problem to use one of the box internal dimensions as one of the face dimensions, giving a distance for the second side. That way, I could build the port with just a single added slot "shelf" that looks like an internal brace. Would that completely gum the works? This is getting fun! John
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Re: Stage monitors -- doubled Pi 4s? [message #33360 is a reply to message #33359] |
Wed, 16 May 2001 13:40 |
juanstein
Messages: 10 Registered: May 2009
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Hi Floyd -- I could try to keep a secret, but the phone book is an insidious devil. Look under "Speaker Repair" in the yellow pages. The company is A. Brown Sound Inc. in San Rafael. I talked to John there. Happy scrounging! John
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