C3g & D3a [message #31879] |
Sat, 06 May 2006 08:49 |
Damir
Messages: 1005 Registered: May 2009
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Received some of those German "postroehren", SQ gold pin pentodes. D3a is mentioned before like possible good driver. C3g is a very interesting tube, too, inside and outside shields, loctal socket, low noise, linear. Nice triode - connected curves; with OP, say, Uak=182V/Ugk=-3V/Ia=12mA we`d have ยต=40 and rp~2k6. Looking good for the (300B) driver, RIAA stage input tube, etc. Must try it soon and report. But, 6 of 15 D3a was defective right from the box, white getter = air inside the tube through barely visible crack between the pins... The best thing is, those quality tubes can be (still) found relatively cheap. Some informations and pictures from the Web: http://www.jacmusic.com/nos/C3g-C3m-info.html http://www.tubecollection.de/ura/postroehren.htm http://www.jogis-roehrenbude.de/Roehren-Geschichtliches/Behoerden/Post/C3g.htm And detailed "Telefunken" data: http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/128/c/C3g.pdf
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Re: C3g & D3a [message #31914 is a reply to message #31911] |
Mon, 26 June 2006 18:38 |
Damir
Messages: 1005 Registered: May 2009
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Illuminati (2nd Degree) |
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Hey, welcome to the forum and feel free to present some of your projects, make a suggestions, etc. Yes, we "believe" in pentodes here, too - you mentioned EF86 and "Neumann" on your interesting DIY pages. Friend of mine is in (expensive) constant search for EF86 and EF806S - not just for the mikes, but even "Matchless" guitar amp... German engineering at that time was something...and those pentodes, especially "postroerhren" and "SQ", gold-pins types. For example, I found the comparison of the prices of some tube types in Germany (TFK, Valvo, Lorenz, Siemens), about 1955.; in the well regarded "Das grose Roehren-Handbuch" by Ludwig Ratheiser": -ECC81 - 14DM -ECC82, ECC83 - 13 DM -EL34 - 18 DM -EL156 - 21 DM -GZ34 - 12 DM -E180F - 30 DM -C3g - 42 DM
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Re: C3g & D3a [message #31915 is a reply to message #31914] |
Tue, 27 June 2006 06:04 |
dividebytube
Messages: 5 Registered: May 2009
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I've mostly played around with the EF86, making two triode-connected EF86 preamps. Very detailed sound, yet not overly harsh or bright. I'm building a new one (once the metal work gets in) for someone else using onboard regulation, chokes, etc... I've also become interested in the EF40, EF12 and want to start using them. I also had some good sound out of a SE 300B amp using an SV83/EL84 - that was a budget version of a Loesch design.
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Re: C3g & D3a [message #31917 is a reply to message #31916] |
Tue, 27 June 2006 07:56 |
dividebytube
Messages: 5 Registered: May 2009
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there are some new EH EF86s coming out - still priced at $15ea - but I'll be checking them out to see how they match up sonically. They almost look like Mullard or Telefunken solid-plate copies. anyways - I'm looking forward to getting some c3g and d3a tubes
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