C3g & D3a [message #31879] |
Sat, 06 May 2006 08:49 ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
Damir
Messages: 1005 Registered: May 2009
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![](http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/936/c3gd3a5mv.jpg)
Received some of those German "postroehren", SQ gold pin pentodes. D3a is mentioned before like possible good driver. C3g is a very interesting tube, too, inside and outside shields, loctal socket, low noise, linear. Nice triode - connected curves; with OP, say, Uak=182V/Ugk=-3V/Ia=12mA we`d have ยต=40 and rp~2k6. Looking good for the (300B) driver, RIAA stage input tube, etc. Must try it soon and report. ![](http://www.audioroundtable.com/emoticons/smiley.gif) But, 6 of 15 D3a was defective right from the box, white getter = air inside the tube through barely visible crack between the pins... ![](http://www.audioroundtable.com/emoticons/frownie.gif) The best thing is, those quality tubes can be (still) found relatively cheap. ![](http://www.audioroundtable.com/emoticons/smiley.gif) Some informations and pictures from the Web: http://www.jacmusic.com/nos/C3g-C3m-info.html http://www.tubecollection.de/ura/postroehren.htm http://www.jogis-roehrenbude.de/Roehren-Geschichtliches/Behoerden/Post/C3g.htm And detailed "Telefunken" data: http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/128/c/C3g.pdf
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Re: C3g & D3a [message #31914 is a reply to message #31911] |
Mon, 26 June 2006 18:38 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
Damir
Messages: 1005 Registered: May 2009
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Hey, welcome to the forum and feel free to present some of your projects, make a suggestions, etc. Yes, we "believe" in pentodes here, too - you mentioned EF86 and "Neumann" on your interesting DIY pages. Friend of mine is in (expensive) constant search for EF86 and EF806S - not just for the mikes, but even "Matchless" guitar amp... German engineering at that time was something...and those pentodes, especially "postroerhren" and "SQ", gold-pins types. For example, I found the comparison of the prices of some tube types in Germany (TFK, Valvo, Lorenz, Siemens), about 1955.; in the well regarded "Das grose Roehren-Handbuch" by Ludwig Ratheiser": -ECC81 - 14DM -ECC82, ECC83 - 13 DM -EL34 - 18 DM -EL156 - 21 DM -GZ34 - 12 DM -E180F - 30 DM ![](http://www.audioroundtable.com/emoticons/(!).gif) -C3g - 42 DM ![](http://www.audioroundtable.com/emoticons/(!).gif)
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Re: C3g & D3a [message #31915 is a reply to message #31914] |
Tue, 27 June 2006 06:04 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
dividebytube
Messages: 5 Registered: May 2009
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![](http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/4976/ef86deluxe15dv.jpg)
I've mostly played around with the EF86, making two triode-connected EF86 preamps. Very detailed sound, yet not overly harsh or bright. I'm building a new one (once the metal work gets in) for someone else using onboard regulation, chokes, etc... I've also become interested in the EF40, EF12 and want to start using them. I also had some good sound out of a SE 300B amp using an SV83/EL84 - that was a budget version of a Loesch design.
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Re: C3g & D3a [message #31917 is a reply to message #31916] |
Tue, 27 June 2006 07:56 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/up.png) |
dividebytube
Messages: 5 Registered: May 2009
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there are some new EH EF86s coming out - still priced at $15ea - but I'll be checking them out to see how they match up sonically. They almost look like Mullard or Telefunken solid-plate copies. anyways - I'm looking forward to getting some c3g and d3a tubes
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