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High Voltage Supply Filtering [message #24682] Sun, 15 May 2005 11:35 Go to next message
moray james is currently offline  moray james
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Baron
Don't know how many of you out there will be interested but this may give cause for consideration. I just completed modifying a friends Acoustat one plus one's high voltage supplies. The mod that I did is docummented on the Izzy Wissy Audio site (http://www.izzy-wizzy.com/audio/spkr.html). This discribes the addition of an extra high voltage filter cap on the HT supply multiplier section. This simple mod does everything stated and then some in my opinion. This mod can be applied to most similar multiplier supplies.
An additional mod/diognostic tool is the mod shared by Sheldon stokes several years ago. This involves a neon bulb which is bypassed (paralled) by a small value cap (to catch transients at lamp turn on). The combination lamp/cap is then placed in series with the output of the high voltage supply after the large megohm value load resistor. When the panel looses charge and draws upon the HT supply the lamp lights up to conduct the HT to the diaphragm. As soon as the diaphragm is fully charged the lamp goes out. The neon lamp presents infinate resistance to the supply under these condition and so effectively decouples the diaphragm from the supply. It is as if you had unplugged the supply and the speaker operates in constant charge mode. As soon as the charge on the diaphragm starts to disapate the lamp turns on and reconnects the supply to the diaphragm. In normal operation the neon lamp will flash on and off. The cool thing is if you should see the lamp on all the time then you know that there must be a steady drain on the diaphragm somewhere (probably dust or bugs between the resistive coating on the diaphragm and the stator on that side of the panel. A very cool diagnostic tool as well as a means to decouple as much as is possible from the supply while maintaining automatic charge management of the diaphragm. Thanks to Sheldon Stokes for that one. Best regards Moray James.

Re: High Voltage Supply Filtering [message #24683 is a reply to message #24682] Sun, 15 May 2005 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Very interesting tip, thanks!


Re: High Voltage Supply Filtering [message #24684 is a reply to message #24682] Tue, 17 May 2005 16:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
moray james is currently offline  moray james
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Baron
Izzy Wizzy explaination Post #3
I_Forgot has suggested that he thinks that the Izzy Wizzy mod does what it does not because of additional filtering of the bias supply but because the panel (older Acoustat 0ne plus 0ne) is probably a bit leaky as far as bias supply goes. So if that is the case the the additional 0.01 uf cap stiffens the supply and makes it better able to get more voltage on to the panel. I think that this makes sense. So to find out I will remove the 0.01 uf cap and decrease the resistance value of the load resistor (500M) to say 250M. If voltage on the diaphragn is really the issue then this mod should have an identical result. Any thoughts or suggestions from the forum would be welcome.
I_Forgot has told me that 10 to 50M ohms is plenty to do the job and to keep the speaker working in constant charge mode. This just makes me want a variable supply all the more. Will keep you interested Acoustat owners advised of how this goes. It would be my guess that the reason Acoustat chose such a high value resistor for this job was probably a combination of reduceing current in the event of a shock and a good price from some vendor. Best regards Moray James.


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Reduction of load resistor value on Acoustat supply [message #24694 is a reply to message #24682] Mon, 30 May 2005 11:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
moray james is currently offline  moray james
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Baron
Well I made it back to my buddies Acoustat 0ne plus 0nes. I wanted to undo the Izzy Wizzy cap mod in order to compare it to the effect of a lower value load resistor. For the present my buddie is so happy with the Izzy Wizzy cap mod he would not let me remove it. So I paralleled a second 500 M ohm resistor to the factory 500 ohm load resistor to chop the resistance value in half to 250 M ohms. The result was much the same again as found with the Izzy Wizzy mod. This was a nice improvement in detail resolution and overall control. I think that I_Forgot was right about this from the start. I also think that 10 M ohms is all that is needed for saftey sake as well as to keep the panel operating in constant charge mode. While a lower value load resistor might just result in some small loss in overall output as a result of leaky dielectric in older Acoustat panels I do not think anyone hearing the improvements would not care to trade a little level for the benefits this simple mod will yield. Thanks to I_Forgot for his insite and willingness to share. Best regards Moray James.

Further Acoustat Bias Supply Mod [message #24706 is a reply to message #24694] Thu, 02 June 2005 23:03 Go to previous message
moray james is currently offline  moray james
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Baron
I got back over to my buddies place tonight . I snubberized the secondary side of the high voltage step up transformer on his Acoustat 0ne plus 0ne's. I used a 10 ohm resistor in series with a .01 uf cap. This turned out to be a very nice little mod. Easy inexpensive and souns great. Give it a try. Best regards Moray James.

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