I'm actually having problems myself. My tweeter amp died and I can't seem to figure out why I can't get the replacement tweeter amps to work with the system. Its weird!

Marlboro

Marc

There are several things which could be involved.

1. You've not defined "integration" for you. Does integration mean the sound that comes from a horn system?

2. You've not indicated your amplification system. Mine uses nearly 1300 watts RMS total. Your system may be way way way less efficient than the heresy's and you could actually be hearing a lack of power that provides less impact and thus perceived less integration. I agree with Thylantyr that systems run on less than 1000 watts won't give you the resource you need.

3. I'm not sure that the Foster's are the best midrange to use with the Dayton neo's and I personally believe that they are stretched too thinly to cross any higher than about 1600, and the neo's can't go any lower than 2400 on a 24 db slope. This would make it seem as if you had separate speakers and a drop out in the critical 1600 - 2500 midrange area.

Marlboro

As I finished finding an amp that would drive the tweeters(I bought a number back when I was building and designing the system two of which were dead on arrival from the wonderful ebay sellers but I didn't know until months later when I got around to hooking them up.)

What are you using the balance the different lines? I've not found the gain controls on my Rane to be up to the task. As a consequence, both the tweeter and the woofer sub lines are driven by amps with their own gain controls on them. This allows me to make balance adjustments that would be impossible with just the little Rane.

When Klipsh built the Heresy's they put in what is commonly called the California sound, which is heavy on emphasis in the impact bass. The horns tend to a more crisp sound, and the whole package is designed for rock bands. I wonder if its a combination of balance and equalization(caused in the passive cross) that has got you enthused with the sound of the Heresy speakers.

Of course, this doesn't deny my first two points in the first missive response. Altho some would simply blame it on: If you use cheap speakers you'll get cheap sound. I think its more complicated than that.

Marlboro

Building a simple three way is usually pretty forgiving, but as you've discovered, building a line array inexpensively without taking care to see that all the elements fit together like a glove can be less than successful. Its easily done, but you have to do a lot of design looking and waiting ahead of time.

If i were you I would simply replace the fosters with a three incher. But I designed my system so that the speakers would work together before I started. If you search around you might be able to come up with 32 sammi's and pay not more than $5 each. Here's some guy who will sell you a case for less than $3.99 each:

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-1-4-SAMMI-WOOFER-MIDS-CW77B10-4OHM-ALLISON-NEW_W0QQitemZ280129614660QQihZ018QQcategoryZ3276QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

I'd keep the electronic crossovers, though you could get one of the heavy hitters in passive's over at PE Tech form like Jeff or Pete or Curt to actually design a passive for you. But in my opinion, The evils of passives bring in more troubles than they are worth.

As I see it, if you go to a single tweeter you lose the low distortion and the wonderful line array benefits. But it all comes down to how much money you want to spend.

Compare 16 PT2 planars for $28 each for $448 or the B3n's for $305. I's stick with the domes if I were you. 64 domes are incredibly distortion free as well as super responsive. If you go with a tweeter you really need one that can give you the same sensitivity as a line of mids, but with individual volume controls on the amps that is not as necessary as when you have a passive crossover.

You might want to consider the benefits of putting the 3 inchers into individual tube enclosures also, but that is pretty labor intensive.

Just my thoughts. Others may have better choices.

Marlboro

Marc

I can email you the information about the tubes if you want.

The Calipso LINE ARRAY:

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