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The ultimate array [message #24367]

Thu, 15 May 2008 19:10

JPH
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Registered: May 2009

Chancellor

What would the ultimate cost no object line array look like and consist of ?
it would be interresting to hear the opinions of the professionals and amateurs .

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Re: The ultimate array [message #24369 is a reply to message #24367]

Thu, 15 May 2008 23:25

Marlboro
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Registered: May 2009

Illuminati (1st Degree)

I'd have to radically change the way my system is configured, and then I wouldn't have the sound that I designed it for.

It was designed to use 3 inch midrange speakers in separate PVC tubes, and to use dome tweeters. Currently I have found no 3 inch mids that have better specs than the SAMMI copper voice coil 3 mm Xmax speakers at any price. There is no other dome tweeter that can be configured to be as close c-to-c as the Dayton Neo (and I'm not going to ribbons since I don't like their sound, nor can the lowered distortion on eight ribbons match that of 30 domes). While I could upgrade the amplification hardware and go from an analog electronic crossover to a digital one, I'm not sure that this would be significant enough to be heard.

So.... while I look for items to upgrade, I've not found any yet---at any price.

Marlboro

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Re: The ultimate array [message #24370 is a reply to message #24367]

Fri, 16 May 2008 01:33

Rick Craig
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Registered: May 2009

Viscount

I would make it with the Fountek Pro5i ribbon tweeters and use a DEQX for the crossover function. The woofers could be a symmetrical layout of smaller drivers or a single line of 5"-7" woofers with outboard subwoofers.

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Re: The ultimate array [message #24372 is a reply to message #24370]

Fri, 16 May 2008 12:23

brucemck2
Messages: 13
Registered: May 2009

Chancellor

I'm taking a run at implementing the question:

Fountek ribbons, Accuton 5" midranges (in sealed cabinets), outboard sealed dual 15" subs, all crossed via heavily modded DEQX and powered via custom built 300b SETs

Rick built me the arrays, Mark Seaton provided the subs, Empirical Audio provided the DEQX, and Alex at 3-d Audio provided the amps.

It's far from dialed in, but the results are already way beyond my expectations.

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Re: The ultimate array [message #24373 is a reply to message #24372]

Fri, 16 May 2008 12:40

Marlboro
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Registered: May 2009

Illuminati (1st Degree)

Bruce,

How many RMS Watts are you using for each sub line(tweeters, mids, and dual woofers)

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Re: The ultimate array [message #24374 is a reply to message #24373]

Fri, 16 May 2008 12:55

brucemck2
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Registered: May 2009

Chancellor

Accutons and Founteks each have around 12w each. Active crossovers with pretty steep slopes and transformers matched to the drivers helps minimize power requirements.

Seatons are self powered with 1000+ watts. (Submersives)

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Re: The ultimate array [message #24375 is a reply to message #24374]

Fri, 16 May 2008 14:12

Marlboro
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Registered: May 2009

Illuminati (1st Degree)

12 watts for each accuton or or each Fountek, or 12 watts for the whole group of them per side? I'm assuming that you mean 12 watts for each individual of each line. How many accutons and how many founteks per side?

Marlboro

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