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Re: Napster [message #2362 is a reply to message #2360] Wed, 02 November 2005 19:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manualblock is currently offline  Manualblock
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Isn't it great that Clear Channel is losing money? Predatory scum. So if Napster is going ad revenue nuetral we can tape music again. About time.

Re: Napster [message #2363 is a reply to message #2362] Wed, 02 November 2005 20:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Do you think Napster isn’t mad with the RIAA anymore, or vice versa? Seems like an awfully big cheek, to turn. Stranger things have happened. Most generally revolve around money!
There’s no such thing as free radio. The radio stations all pay huge licensing fees to play the music we listen to. Even NPR and college stations pay at lesser rates than some of the commercial stations. It could be free if you never buy anything. Since the stations are paid by advertisers the cost is simply pushed into the products and the consumers pay for it. Advertising budgets are huge. What would you think a bottle of Bud would cost if they never advertised? A pair of Nike sneakers or even grape juice with no Larry King endorsement.

I’m with Akhilesh, I like the used music stores. We do have a say in how much things cost and how much people are paid. If you don't buy new music there are no profits for recording industry and those artist. Go to local concerts instead. I’m not too crazed with the some of the pro sports salaries so I boycott the events for the most part. Everyone has there threshold of ‘what its worth’ to them.

There is a point about the whole Napster situation in that. Do you think all the younger people that downloaded millions in RIAA revenue would have gone out and paid for the music? Have sales now seen huge profit gains.


Re: Napster [message #2364 is a reply to message #2363] Thu, 03 November 2005 01:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wheew; you don't ask the easy ones do you?
My view...you pay either way regardless. If you want a cheap bottle of beer; make it. It's not hard, just real messy.
But seriously; here's my take. There is media and we are consumers. If a radio station pays a liscensing fee they must act like a business and make money or get money from contributions.
We know that to be true. Now they filter content based upon what they can do to make the most money. Thats censoreship and we as citizens have the right to hear the things we support with our tax or consumer dollars.
My beef is not with the price of CD's because thats a choice I make whether to buy or not. But when the content is filtered for some gain then I am angry; therefor I will seek out the places where music is available and get it any way I can as is my right. Thats why I am happy they are finding some way to provide the music.
I am not so concerned about the 15$ for a cd; I don't see that as prohibitive; I just want to be able to get that CD. I have many regrets concerning money spent but few involve a CD that I may listen to hundreds of times at 45 min to an hour per side. Or even ten times.
Or never as is the case with quite a few lately.

Why I like CDbaby.com & jazzpromo.com [message #2366 is a reply to message #2363] Thu, 03 November 2005 08:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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These sites pay the artist $8-$10 per CD, as opposed to $1-2 the labels pay.
Go to www.cdbaby.com, and find singers who sond like Diana Krall for example. You'll see tons of them, some of them very good. Not only will you be exposed to a byunch of people who are very good, but just didn;t land a contract with a studio, but you will actually be able to greatly expand your CD collection, no copy protection, nothing, instead of blowing money opn the next tube amp. I love the site.
-akhilesh

Re: Why I like CDbaby.com & jazzpromo.com [message #2367 is a reply to message #2366] Thu, 03 November 2005 08:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here is the site
also try jazzpromo.com


Re: Why I like CDbaby.com & jazzpromo.com [message #2368 is a reply to message #2367] Thu, 03 November 2005 08:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have used that site for some time. Some of the artists are very good and some..not so good. If you find one you like then it's a good deal, but if you buy CD's you will never play then well; not so good.
You need to be very selective over there. These people are talented but if they are not signed to a label there is a reason. Maybe they are not so consistent or lacking originality.
If you like Jazz then Mosaic is the place. I just picked up the Charles Tolliver three CD set and man that blew me away! Some absolutely fantastic music. What a sound on his trumpet; like liquid gold.

Re: Why I like CDbaby.com & jazzpromo.com [message #2371 is a reply to message #2368] Thu, 03 November 2005 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can listen to all the artists there, and decide what you like. All of them seem to be good at their stuff, some may appeakl to som and some to others. But they all seem to have talent. THe important hig is you can HEAR them and CHOOSE.

In my mind if you are NOT signed with a majopr studio DOES NOT mean you are not talented. In fact, I would say, they are often a lot more talented than some of the schlock the major studios release.
I am just sick of supporting anything these majotr studios do, and will from now on ONLY buy used CDs on ebay or used music stores, or buy from these sites like cdbaby.com or directly from the artist. I will end up with a lot more CDs and a lot less tube amps...a good compromise in my opinion.
Thanks for the tip on Mosaic. I'll check that out too.
-akhilesh


Re: Why I like CDbaby.com & jazzpromo.com [message #2374 is a reply to message #2371] Thu, 03 November 2005 14:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Understand AK I agree with all you say. If you hear an artist on CDBaby you like then by all means that is great. I don't mean to disparage the artists just be caustious and make sure they have a good repretoir greater than one or two good songs.

Re: Why I like CDbaby.com & jazzpromo.com [message #2382 is a reply to message #2374] Fri, 04 November 2005 11:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WE are on the same page here, John. I did notice quite a few artists I wouldn;t buy, but the good thing was< i could listen to a lot of their songs, and then all the money (or almost all) went to the artist. That is really cool.
ANd I don;t see artists and garage bands wasting time with DRM and pissing off their listeners.
I think the economic end of the RIAA is near.
-akhilesh


Re: Why I like CDbaby.com & jazzpromo.com [message #2383 is a reply to message #2382] Fri, 04 November 2005 13:18 Go to previous message
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Right on my friend. In 1970 we taped music off the radio and still bought hundreds of albums. This business of royalties is a bunch of crapola. It prevents music from being heard and thats why the music industry is in the tiolet.

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