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Re: Thoughts on focused arrays and the phase problem [message #22495 is a reply to message #22493] Wed, 16 February 2005 08:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Peterschmidt is currently offline  Dave Peterschmidt
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Good observation. I hadn't thought of that. I suppose one could bevel the lower edges of the steps to remove the edges, but there might still be some effect. Something to think about, for sure.


the interference field? [message #22496 is a reply to message #22485] Wed, 16 February 2005 13:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lcholke is currently offline  lcholke
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Button in his paper argues that the high frequencies are attenuated due to interference in the near field. I would think this would be eliminated with a focused array. This could be a new thread topic on this board.

I would mount the drivers on axis to the listening point to get the most benefit of the drivers designed flat on axis response.

http://www.jblpro.com/vertec1/doug%20button%20258%20final%20rev%20c.pdf

-Linc


Re: the interference field? [message #22497 is a reply to message #22496] Wed, 16 February 2005 14:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Peterschmidt is currently offline  Dave Peterschmidt
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So the attenuation would be caused by wave cancellation as the phase discrepancy approached the wavelength of the sound, is that the idea? That should be a measureable phenomenon, as should your proposed fix.

Re: the interference field? [message #22498 is a reply to message #22497] Wed, 16 February 2005 21:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lcholke is currently offline  lcholke
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I think most people want a large "sweet spot" for their sound system so the focused array is not their design of choice. Pro sound needs to have every seat in the house be a good seat. So not many people have a need to measure the focused array performance. Measuring my system is on my list of audio things to do. I have a 16 nsb focused array. The flat array phase shift always made me hesitant to build one. I am thinking of making a straight 16 to see how the sound will be different. I heard Jim's needles and they seemed to have a similar sound. I think it is the nearfield effect that I like. Jim gave a short talk and he pointed out the different way the nearfield sound field produced from an array sounds compared to a point source.

-Linc

Re: Thoughts on focused arrays and the phase problem [message #22503 is a reply to message #22490] Wed, 23 February 2005 21:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Anton is currently offline  Paul Anton
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Jim,
I have also read the initial reveiws on the css wr125s driver.
The arrays you mention ,I assume, are the Lambda and Omega LS kits on the CSS site. I have not found any reveiws on these models as of yet. Where did you find these "initial reports"?
Thanks,
Paul

Re: Thoughts on focused arrays and the phase problem [message #22504 is a reply to message #22503] Wed, 23 February 2005 21:51 Go to previous message
Jim Griffin is currently offline  Jim Griffin
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Paul,

On the DIYaudio site you can checkout Dave D.'s (Planet 10) comments in the Loudspeaker thread on the Northwest DIY event in Vancouver last fall. One thread reference is:

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45268&perpage=10&pagenumber=3

See post #24.

Dave also had a post on this area last week on the same subject. See

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51613&perpage=10&highlight=wr125&pagenumber=4

Post #32.

That will get you going. Likely you can find others by searching.

Jim



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