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Re: Well, see, it's this way.... [message #21722 is a reply to message #21721] Thu, 21 September 2006 08:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hurdy_gurdyman is currently offline  hurdy_gurdyman
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>Are the "round tubes" going to be like a frame around the baffle to break up difraction?
Re: Eminence Alpha 12 and 15 [message #21724 is a reply to message #21678] Mon, 02 October 2006 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
moray james is currently offline  moray james
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Had a buddy sim a pair of Eminence Delta 15 LFA in "W" dipole configuration and they should work very well especially considering the cost and size. Does not look like you will need any low EQ with these and they will move a lot of air with not much power. Regards Moray James. PS the Kilomax Pro 18A looks to be killer in this configuration.

Re: I know my input is not wanted here... [message #21730 is a reply to message #21687] Thu, 26 October 2006 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Retsel is currently offline  Retsel
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The Silver Iris drivers use a stamped frame driver. Using a pair of stamped frame drivers, Linkwitz measured some resonances in the midrange band caused by the stamped frame. It is better to use cast frame drivers OR mount the stamped frame drivers by the magnet.

There is no free lunch when it comes to frequency response. If you try to reproduce the lower frequencies with a driver that you are asking to also reproduce the midrange frequencies with, you will muddy up the midrange (it is doppler distortion which is a function of physics). The problem is worse using a high Q driver because of its weaker magnet. Thus, it is much better to keep the lower frequencies (below 100 hz) out of the midrange driver and biamp to keep those frequencies out of the amp as well.

Linkwitz tried many drivers and concluded that OB sound is best with drivers with a Q of 0.4 to 0.5. It is a function of damping (even though that Linkwitz used SS amps, not tube amps). I am sure that the Silver Iris drivers sound good, but if your goal is only good sound, then you're done (and you may not care about the midrange distortion, which is fine too). But if you are after great sound, then you really need to be looking elsewhere.

Retsel

Re: How about the T/S specs of the Silver Iris by Hawthorne? [message #21731 is a reply to message #21677] Thu, 26 October 2006 18:41 Go to previous message
FredT is currently offline  FredT
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Lots of good discussion here about the Silver Iris OB speaker. Hurdy Gurdyman, who owns a pair, says they're great. Others, who have not heard the Silver Iris, are skeptical based on their theoretical knowledge of high Q OB speakers' behavior.

I suspect these are speakers that would not test well, especially at high levels with bass rich program material, but which sound very appealing at moderate levels. Only an audition will tell, so who's going to bring a pair to the Lone Star Audio Fest next May?

Regarding the stamped versus cast frame, cast is better, but it's also more expensive. The Silver Iris with a cast frame would be be quite a bit more expensive, and out of the reach of people who are now enjoying it.

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