Looking for a single driver? [message #21213] |
Thu, 11 August 2005 14:32 |
djm
Messages: 18 Registered: May 2009
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Hi I am looking for a single driver. I would like to get one with out the wizzer cone. I just bought a pair of the fostex 206 fe and sold them to much midband for me and to bright to. I am looking for a single driving unit about 6 1/2 inch to 4 1/2 ichs. Please if you can help or tell me of a brand please let me know. Thanks jm
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Re: Jordan or coral [message #21228 is a reply to message #21226] |
Sun, 14 August 2005 14:44 |
djm
Messages: 18 Registered: May 2009
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Hi I just went to the single driver web site. They said that the Coral driver have been out of production for a long time now. Where would I get the Coral beta 8 fullrange driver? That is the one I am really looking. I would Like a u.s. dealer if possable. Thanks jm
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Re: Jordan or coral [message #21229 is a reply to message #21228] |
Sun, 14 August 2005 15:24 |
Martin
Messages: 220 Registered: May 2009
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Why not try a Lowther driver. The lowest cost PM6C is a great driver, in my experience still a cut above the Fostex drivers. I have been listening to the PM6C in my ML TL for the past couple of months and it is really very balanced and sounds extremely good. Martin
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Re: But will it play Metal? [message #21235 is a reply to message #21234] |
Tue, 16 August 2005 19:06 |
Martin
Messages: 220 Registered: May 2009
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Ed, I don't see why they would not play "metal". The speakers can play very loud, louder then I ever push them with my with 200 watt amp. I have on occasion cranked up jazz and classical to uncomfortable levels for my own enjoyment/entertainment or at the request of visitors. Seems to play well, bass is strong and tight but not earth shaking. No idea what SPL that would equate to, if the speakers were pushed back into the corners I am sure it would be even louder. I am afraid that 100+ dB of Metallica is not something I strive for or have been requested to reproduce. Sorry, Martin
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Re: But will it play Metal? [message #21236 is a reply to message #21235] |
Tue, 16 August 2005 19:57 |
Ed Schilling
Messages: 47 Registered: May 2009
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Martin, You are a good sport and I hope you knew I was "teasing you". Kidding aside, I actually don't listen to much Metallica......but when I do it must be loud! That goes for any music that should be played loud. Veruca Salt at 80 dB just doesn't cut it, Neither does Suzie Q. at 80 dB. Norah, Allison ? Well, no need to have them scream at you, 80 is fine. I figure any "real" Hi Fi should be able to play "real music" at 100 dB peaks, at the listening spot, as measured by a typical SPL meter. I would not think you would want your speakers in corners since they were not designed to take them (corners) into account in the overall response you were trying to achieve. I have not found "corner placement" to be a "good thing" unless the speaker was designed to use them and it's overall response was "tailored" for use in corners. Just for kicks....in a BR the woofer cones are at minimum excursion at port tuning (a good thing)......or so I thought. What happens below port resonance? Does not the driver become "under damped" and "kind of flop around" (a very bad thing for a single driver speaker)? And if the content you are listening to has significant output below port tuning (common) wouldn't that cause excessive excursion and maybe even limit SPL (due to audible distortion) in a single driver speaker? Is my understanding of this wrong? Ed
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Re: But will it play Metal? [message #21237 is a reply to message #21236] |
Wed, 17 August 2005 05:16 |
Martin
Messages: 220 Registered: May 2009
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Ed, "You are a good sport and I hope you knew I was "teasing you"." With you Ed, one is never sure. But I suspected that was the case. "Just for kicks....in a BR the woofer cones are at minimum excursion at port tuning (a good thing)......or so I thought. What happens below port resonance? Does not the driver become "under damped" and "kind of flop around" (a very bad thing for a single driver speaker)? And if the content you are listening to has significant output below port tuning (common) wouldn't that cause excessive excursion and maybe even limit SPL (due to audible distortion) in a single driver speaker? Is my understanding of this wrong?"
You are correct. I once bottomed a 10" Focal woofer in a BR playing the 1812 cannon shots. I made it to the volume control before any real damage was done. If you think about it, a BR unloads the driver below resonance because it is acting like an open backed speaker. A TL or ML TL does the same thing, although having stuffing helps a little to damp any ringing. But if you think a little harder, you will also recognize that a BLH has the same problem as a BR at very low frequencies. A BLH does not prevent unloading the driver below the line's first resonance. The jazz I listen to does not have much bass content below 40 Hz so I really don't have too many concerns about my drivers in ML TL enclosures going unstable. Since we did a way with turntable rumble (much better turntable and CD players) I have not seen BR enclosures unload very often, at least in my system. Martin
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