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Re: Heavy-cones verses light-cones in basshorns [message #18903 is a reply to message #18902] Tue, 12 September 2006 14:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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I understand your position. All the midbass horns I've made were designed to be used over a fairly wide band, just like midrange horns. So I've tended to use drivers like JBL 22xx series parts, which are high BL, low mass speakers. I've made 80Hz horns, 60Hz horns and even 40Hz horns that way, each designed to cover at least a decade. But if I only want to cover the subwoofer range, under 100Hz, the low-fs drivers make some sense. That way I can take advantage of reactance annulling at VLF. Basshorn subs need all the help they can get, because they're never really large enough.


Re: Heavy-cones verses light-cones in basshorns [message #18904 is a reply to message #18903] Tue, 12 September 2006 18:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DMoore is currently offline  DMoore
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That is exactly my opinion, too.

It depends on the bandpass of the horn.

That's alot of typing to arrive at that, I should learn to be more concise!

Dana

Re: Heavy-cones verses light-cones in basshorns [message #18905 is a reply to message #18904] Tue, 12 September 2006 18:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DMoore is currently offline  DMoore
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One more thing - what effect on moving mass do "shorting rings" have?
Presumably, they only take effect on the upper-and-mid-bass freqs, so what about sub-horn (less than 3 octave) use?

Dana

Re: Heavy-cones verses light-cones in basshorns [message #18907 is a reply to message #18905] Tue, 12 September 2006 23:47 Go to previous message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Shorting rings do nothing to affect moving mass. They do decrease and stabilize voice coil inductance, which is useful for extending HF response, among other things. They also reduce flux modulation, which reduces distortion.

I really like drivers with shorting rings, because one that's properly made will reduce harmonic distortion 15dB or more. That's a huge improvement. But they don't work very well below about 100Hz. Theoretically, one could be made that reduced distortion at very low frequencies, but it's difficult. The ring has to be large, and that takes away from magnet space. From a practical design standpoint, it becomes prohibitively impractical to design a subwoofer with an effective shorting ring. That's why you see other technologies employed, things like differential voice coils and other forms of push-pull drive.

Push-pull drive reduces even harmonics, and it works best at low frequencies. So where shorting rings lose their effectiveness at the bottom end, push-pull drive starts to work its best. Push-pull drive only works on even harmonics, but folded basshorns with limited bandwidth will attenuate higher harmonics. For example, if a basshorn is designed to operate to ~100Hz, then the third harmonic of a 35Hz signal is at the edge of the stop band. Second harmonics are cancelled by the push-pull drive and third harmonics are reduced by being out of the passband. Fourth harmonics are cancelled by both the push-pull drive and being even further out in the stop band. Of course, higher harmonics are reduced even more.



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