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The Subwoofer thing [message #18599]

Sat, 25 February 2006 07:47

Manualblock
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Interesting articles and discussion regarding sub-placement and arrangement downstairs here. But I must say what is the general consensus? Where do people put their subs to make good music? Obviously no one is going to buy four or five expensive subs; not to mention the home would look like a wharehouse with all those boxes. So how do we translate all these studies into a practicle application of principal? Because truthfully?, What I am getting from the discussion is basically, put 'em where they sound best!
Anyway is this discussion really applicable only to very expensive dedicated listening rooms of the rich audiophile?

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Re: The Subwoofer thing [message #18600 is a reply to message #18599]

Sat, 25 February 2006 10:42

Leland Crooks
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Great thread. It's really enjoyable for us amateurs to listen to knowledgable people debate. Both points of view seem to make sense to me.

"put 'em where they sound best!"

That's half the fun of this stuff. Screwing around with trying wring that last vestige your system is capable of.

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Woofers in general [message #18601 is a reply to message #18600]

Sat, 25 February 2006 11:07

Wayne Parham
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The same rules apply to woofers in all speakers. The range from about 200Hz down is the room modal region, so placement of full-range speakers determines bass and lower midrange in the room.

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Re: Where'd the damn subwoofer come from, anyway? [message #18602 is a reply to message #18601]

Sat, 25 February 2006 11:49

Bill Epstein
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Seems to me it came along with Jantzen and KLH electro-stats. For the first time, there was a viable, even superior, departure from cone speakers.Unfortunately, they had little output in the bottom octave.
So I have to ask? If you're designing home audio speakers, and not using planar or ribbon drivers, why wouldn't you include an F3 of 32Hz in every speaker you make?

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Re:Read My Mind [message #18604 is a reply to message #18602]

Sat, 25 February 2006 13:04

Manualblock
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I never have understood the whole "Sub-wooofer" thing myself. Not to mention the fact that I have never heard one sound any good.

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JBL 2242 [message #18605 is a reply to message #18604]

Sun, 26 February 2006 05:08

spkrman57
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manualblock,

I guess you should hear a JBL 18" like the 2242 in a 9 cubic ft cabinet tuned to 28hz.

I have no complaints about this sub, puts most 12" and 15" subs to shame!

Ron

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Re: JBL 2242 [message #18606 is a reply to message #18605]

Sun, 26 February 2006 06:31

Manualblock
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What music is there down at that level Ron? I can't find any except maybe rap or Bach Organ recitals. They claim that the String Bass does 30HZ but I think that is true only for the lowest E on the lowest string. Seems like a lot of effort to hear a couple notes.

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Henry Kloss [message #18607 is a reply to message #18602]

Sun, 26 February 2006 15:43

Bill Fitzmaurice
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He was the first to come up with the idea of separate satellites for the directional frequencies that could be placed where required for proper imaging and a separate enclosure for the non-directional frequencies that could be placed wherever it was convenient. Not everyone had room for a large Advent on their bookshelves.

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Re: Henry Kloss [message #18608 is a reply to message #18607]

Sun, 26 February 2006 16:04

Manualblock
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The big Advent went pretty low in freq if I recall; and of course at the time cartridges and tape players rolled off pretty high up. I wonder where he was going with that.

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