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Re: Components beliefs [message #1576 is a reply to message #1571] |
Tue, 03 May 2005 21:42 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
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Wayne Parham
Messages: 18755 Registered: January 2001
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Here's the lamp. Look at the lower right in the photo below.That big black thing in the center of the photo is Geddes Summa loudspeaker, by the way. ![](http://www.audioroundtable.com/emoticons/uhh.gif) Earl Geddes and Duke LeJeune, Summa loudspeaker and groovy vapor lamp
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Re: Components beliefs [message #1577 is a reply to message #1563] |
Tue, 03 May 2005 22:01 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
akhilesh
Messages: 1275 Registered: May 2009
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Nice post, Earl!. And a pleasure to meet you & Duke & Lori! Here are my 2 cents: THe most important determinant of god sound is the recording, followed by the speaker-room system, followed by the components. Given today's excellence in digital sources & amplification, i'd agree with your percentage allocation, except in a few instances. Three of these are below:1. If a component or amplifier is deliberately skewed to sound "pleasant" it will make a difference. For example, in the setup I listen to most nowadays, 90 HZ to around 3300 HZ are driven by a SET 45 amp connected to a vintage driver (8 inches). Is the resulting sound accurate? Heck no! Is it pleasant? In spades! 2. Some DACs and CD players are deliberately rolledoff, or HAVE to be rolled off (Wadia for example) by as much as 2-3 db in the high octave. This can create again, an inaccurate but pleasant sounding effect. 3. Several cables, esp. speaker cables, with appreciable LC or R can skew the frequency response of the amplifier-cable-speaker sub-system. TO some this can sound pleasant. Overall, ther is NO doubt to anyone who has spent much timein this hobby that the speaker-room interaction makes the bigest difference: since speakers generally have the most distortion, and the most skewed freq response. thanks -akhilesh
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Re: Components beliefs [message #1582 is a reply to message #1563] |
Wed, 04 May 2005 06:36 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
guitarplayer
Messages: 59 Registered: May 2009
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Interesting post. I respect your opinion, but respectfully disagree. I am not going to go into a long explanation of my point of view, but in the last 25+ years in this business, my experience is that EVERYTHING matters. I do agree that speakers are a very important part of the equation, but 90%? Sorry, can't go with you on that one. BTW, I thought the lamp was cool as well!
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Re: Components beliefs [message #1613 is a reply to message #1570] |
Wed, 04 May 2005 21:14 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
michael.e
Messages: 1 Registered: May 2009
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But I will admitt to; upon hearing the tones of bass fiddle flattened out by cheap electronics even from another room it does get irritating My problem/freedom is,that I dont hear instruments live very often,more likely to hear Djs spinning vinyl through Qsc power amps into cheaply filtered HF horns and 15" midbass!I dont know if its good or bad,I can just adjust my soundsystem til I think its best,without any reference! Cheers Mike.e
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BTW, [message #1633 is a reply to message #1563] |
Thu, 05 May 2005 09:13 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
mikebake
Messages: 243 Registered: May 2009
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Bruce Edgar "always" says, when it comes to audio gear, that "people see what they hear, and hear what they see"..................how true. Not seeing what they are listening to would bug the shit out of most "audiophiles" as they would be afraid of liking something they "shouldn't' or disliking something they "should". Their opinion is highly shaped by what they see, and their expectation.
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Re:And SOoo - [message #1634 is a reply to message #1633] |
Thu, 05 May 2005 09:44 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
Earl Geddes
Messages: 220 Registered: May 2009
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manufacturers give them eye candy, poor sound and charge big bucks! When I was at Ford in the aerly years of OEm audio wars, the markeyting guys insisted on flashing lights. Theye didn't have to mean anything and it didn't matter if sound quality had to be sacrificed - there had to be eye candy or no-go. Nothing has changed.
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