Finally the x-over is hooked up [message #15371] |
Sat, 09 September 2006 21:33 |
MWG
Messages: 344 Registered: May 2009
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I bought a Rane AC-22 pretty cheap so I built some cables for it since it's the older model that uses TS plugs. I have noticed a couple of things so far. One is I need a setup cd or tone generator for sure The bass seems to be more controlled than before with the tube amp.I'm using a SS MC-2505 for the bottom end and a tube MC-275 for the horns in the Valencias. I played the Mark Knopfler/Emmy Lou Harris-All the Roadrunning album and it sure sounds sweet. I don't think there is a night and day difference so the old Altec x-over can't be all that bad for as old as it is. I used the stock split @ 800 HZ. and haven't fooled around with changing it. I think Altec used 800 for a reason so I don't see a big need to fool around with it. Reading the Rane owners manual is a hoot. They have a sense of humor. Too bad most of the technical stuff is over my head. My peabrain doesn't absorb electronics well I'll figure it out eventually.
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Re: Finally the x-over is hooked up [message #15376 is a reply to message #15375] |
Mon, 11 September 2006 15:45 |
wunhuanglo
Messages: 912 Registered: May 2009
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Why do you say "wasted my money"? I would be willing to bet "haven't exploited the device as more accurate. MLK's comment about "little difference" can be taken with a grain of salt since he's rather a newbie to active systems. In addition to active crossovers I have a hardware RTA, a software RTA, two measurement mics, a rack mount SPL meter and two hand-held SPL meters. You need to use some reference signal to get the thing in line - it ain't going to happen by ear. Check out the link below:
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Re: Finally the x-over is hooked up [message #15377 is a reply to message #15376] |
Mon, 11 September 2006 19:26 |
MWG
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Sorry, I was being sarcastic and it didn't come accross plain enough. I was just surprised that someone could dismiss the whole idea so easily. I'm hoping to figure out the manual and maybe utilize some of the old test gear I was given. I have a couple of frequency generators that I think would work If I can figure out how to hook them up. I'm in no hurry to go back to the passive x-over. I have more time than money so I'll get a handle on it eventually. I've been told that the Valencia speaker has the drivers in line so time alignment is not an issue. I don't know this for a fact but I do know if I wander off of zero on the time delay the sound goes bad in a hurry
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Re: Finally the x-over is hooked up [message #15378 is a reply to message #15377] |
Tue, 12 September 2006 23:25 |
wunhuanglo
Messages: 912 Registered: May 2009
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I apologize for being typically dense. The Altec method for aligning the drivers, as I remember it, is to wire the drivers out-of-phase and play a tone at the crossover frequency (here, as with most Altec speakers, 800 Hz). You then find the fore-and-aft position that yeilds an SPL minima - at that point the drivers are in the proper physical alignment.
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Re: Finally the x-over is hooked up [message #15379 is a reply to message #15378] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 08:09 |
MWG
Messages: 344 Registered: May 2009
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Last night I had a wild hair and put on Led Zep's Houses of the Holy. The record is pretty noisy but I was surprised to hear the seperation between recorded tracks on that album. I know they liked to use stereo effects a lot but this produced a nice sound stage I hadn't heard before. I think the alignment must be pretty close because when I add any delay the life goes right out of the sound and it sounds like a high powered transistor radio
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